Fernando Forestieri

[Guest Bulgaria]

I've lost count of the number of times I hear..

" Let's hope he comes back fit and firing"

 

I personally think his head is elsewhere. He will be gone as soon as possible.

[matthefish2002]

As good a player outside the Premier League on his day. Sadly that day for a variety of reasons has become less and less during his time with us.
Some things that have happened against him have been outside his control, while some things have not.

But don't feel that sorry for him he is on a reported £40k a week after all.

[MRGRIM]

Going to play a massive part in our season when he is back.

[sweetsheri]

unreal

[OWLS about that?]

10 hours ago, Andysowls said:

Hey ‘nando....welcome t’Owlstalk...

How are you spending your time during your ban mate 

[briggowl]

That is unbelievable!!!!

[BARMYARMY2010]

27 minutes ago, Bulgaria said:

 

I personally think his head is elsewhere. He will be gone as soon as possible.

Been said every transfer window since 2016,he's still here. 

[maltbyowl]

if he gets a run I bet you all change your minds

[Anlaby Owl]

10 hours ago, A12owl said:

They should but they don't.

Those referee decision are unbelievable. Isn't the last ref a premiership ref?

Can't remember his name. 

They are not judging him, he has already been condemned.  How many times each week do we see players diving and throwing themselves around and how often do we see a different response from the ref depending upon whos doing the diving and who they play for.  I don't want to be a conspiracist but its a fact that the football authorities have it in for fessi and other players would get sympathy if they committed murder on the pitch. 

[matthefish2002]

56 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said:

Been said every transfer window since 2016,he's still here. 

 

I think a lot of the reason he is still here is his wages are higher at Wednesday then other clubs are prepared to pay.
But like 90% of players really.

[alanharper]

10 hours ago, Holmowl said:

Fact is our record when he starts for us is off-the-scale abysmal.

 

Look no further.

 

Without scrolling down, of the 16 games he has started since the start of last season, how many have we won?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two.

 

Really. You will think I’m making it up.

 

Ipswich 0-1 Owls (we scored after he was subbed)

 

Owls 2-0 Brentford.

 

It simply doesn’t work. Why? Christ knows. But it doesn’t.

 

He started once this season. QPR.

 

Was it actually Forestieri's fault that we didn't win more of those games though? Was it down to him that we threw away a 2 goal lead late on against WBA, or that Norwich equalised just after midnight? Of those 13 league starts he made where we didn't win he still scored 6 goals which is a very decent return. And despite that limited game time in a season riddled with injury, suspension and a court appearance looming over him he was still 4th top scorer with those 6 goals from 15 league starts behind Fletcher (11 from 32 starts), Joao (7 from 18 plus 3 goals as sub) and Reach (8 from 43)

 

He was top scorer and top assist maker in his first 2 seasons, and after losing the majority of the following season to injury still came back with 5 goals in the last 8 games. Easily the most talented player we've had in the last 20 years, one of very few players we've had in that time who can fashion a goal from nothing (see the Reading and Norwich goals as prime examples) yet it makes me laugh how some people seem to be so desperate to get rid of him or belittle his stats.

 

If you're purely looking at the results when a particular player participated, you'd find that George Boyd was a key player last season as we averaged 1.63 points per game when he played compared to 1.3 for Hutchinson and 1.42 for Fletcher and Bannan but I don't see anyone slating their stats or complaining that we let Boyd go...

 

 

[Dutch McLovin]

He is still our most talented player. I think this would have been his Season with Bruce he would have got the best out of him.

 

I just hope Monk can do that too.

[Dutch McLovin]

3 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Was it actually Forestieri's fault that we didn't win more of those games though? Was it down to him that we threw away a 2 goal lead late on against WBA, or that Norwich equalised just after midnight? Of those 13 league starts he made where we didn't win he still scored 6 goals which is a very decent return. And despite that limited game time in a season riddled with injury, suspension and a court appearance looming over him he was still 4th top scorer with those 6 goals from 15 league starts behind Fletcher (11 from 32 starts), Joao (7 from 18 plus 3 goals as sub) and Reach (8 from 43)

 

He was top scorer and top assist maker in his first 2 seasons, and after losing the majority of the following season to injury still came back with 5 goals in the last 8 games. Easily the most talented player we've had in the last 20 years, one of very few players we've had in that time who can fashion a goal from nothing (see the Reading and Norwich goals as prime examples) yet it makes me laugh how some people seem to be so desperate to get rid of him or belittle his stats.

 

If you're purely looking at the results when a particular player participated, you'd find that George Boyd was a key player last season as we averaged 1.63 points per game when he played compared to 1.3 for Hutchinson and 1.42 for Fletcher and Bannan but I don't see anyone slating their stats or complaining that we let Boyd go...

 

 

Fantastic Post !!!!

 

Stats can be interpreted how people want them to be.

 

If you watch him you can see the talent... if someone can get the best out of him then not only should we be tying him down to a new contract we should be building a team round him.

[sheffwed1]

5 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said:

Fantastic Post !!!!

 

Stats can be interpreted how people want them to be.

 

If you watch him you can see the talent... if someone can get the best out of him then not only should we be tying him down to a new contract we should be building a team round him.

 

Doesnt it prove we are a more effective team when he is not starting though? 

Of course it does. 

It is about the 11 on the pitch not one player. 

Some fans need to accept what is in front of them. We are a better team with him on the bench barring his first season here. 

[Dutch McLovin]

2 minutes ago, sheffwed1 said:

 

Doesnt it prove we are a more effective team when he is not starting though? 

Of course it does. 

It is about the 11 on the pitch not one player. 

Some fans need to accept what is in front of them. We are a better team with him on the bench barring his first season here. 

No not really.

 

You can pit that at any player, and I have, I think were a better team without Bannan in it as good as Bannan is.

 

Its all about opinions but when you have a game changer you give him as much game time as possible IMO.

[BARMYARMY2010]

52 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said:

 

I think a lot of the reason he is still here is his wages are higher at Wednesday then other clubs are prepared to pay.
But like 90% of players really.

Ahh yes, the old wages chestnut. 

[prowl]

FF still had it when he came back from injury towards the end of Jos's first season. He was great  back to almost his best. Is it still there, probably, if his head is right. It will be down to Monk to see if he can get FF back to his best.

 

As things stand I wouldn't offer him a new contract on anything like the terms he must be on at present unless we can see signs that he's motivated and back to his old self.

[matthefish2002]

2 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said:

Ahh yes, the old wages chestnut. 

 

So you dont think one reason FF is still a Wednesday player is to do with money?

[sheffwed1]

24 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said:

No not really.

 

You can pit that at any player, and I have, I think were a better team without Bannan in it as good as Bannan is.

 

Its all about opinions but when you have a game changer you give him as much game time as possible IMO.

 

And when we have done (ie starting Nando) we have not got the results. Thats my point. 

 

He definitely has a part to play but more as an impact sub. 

[Belfast Owl 2]

41 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Was it actually Forestieri's fault that we didn't win more of those games though? Was it down to him that we threw away a 2 goal lead late on against WBA, or that Norwich equalised just after midnight? Of those 13 league starts he made where we didn't win he still scored 6 goals which is a very decent return. And despite that limited game time in a season riddled with injury, suspension and a court appearance looming over him he was still 4th top scorer with those 6 goals from 15 league starts behind Fletcher (11 from 32 starts), Joao (7 from 18 plus 3 goals as sub) and Reach (8 from 43)

 

He was top scorer and top assist maker in his first 2 seasons, and after losing the majority of the following season to injury still came back with 5 goals in the last 8 games. Easily the most talented player we've had in the last 20 years, one of very few players we've had in that time who can fashion a goal from nothing (see the Reading and Norwich goals as prime examples) yet it makes me laugh how some people seem to be so desperate to get rid of him or belittle his stats.

 

If you're purely looking at the results when a particular player participated, you'd find that George Boyd was a key player last season as we averaged 1.63 points per game when he played compared to 1.3 for Hutchinson and 1.42 for Fletcher and Bannan but I don't see anyone slating their stats or complaining that we let Boyd go...

 

 

 

Can't agree with this more.