Popular Post wakefieldinleed1 Posted September 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2019 Monk did very well at Leeds, sadly tailed off towards end of season. Liked to play out of from the back, had good footballing defenders but didn’t over play, like say reading did under stam. Overall a nice style of play, quite attacking was quite good in the transfer market. Pablo has probably been our best pound for pound signing for years. Bartley another great loan signing. Had great backroom staff in Beattie and pep. Wood improved massively under Beattie. Left leeds, because he didn’t really want a director of football. Did feel he’d run his course at Leeds though. Wasn’t a great fan of his personality, abit smarmy, seemed to be all about him at times. Overall, think it’s a very good appointment for you but don’t expect miracles, if your players aren’t good enough, he’s not going to get massive improvement out of them 8 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Sounds like a reasonable summary. Squad hopefully good enough for play offs if he can max out with them. I reckon his mad eyes are worth six points from scared refs and psyched out oppos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On the last point, I'd say he did just spend the season getting much more out of Birmingham than the quality of their squad would've indicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldinleed1 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Birmingham was in difficult circumstances but they had some really good players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Also can’t really blame him for your ability to bottle it season after season. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 who's pep ?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Get Beattie on board maybe turn Dave into a £16m striker then ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Beattie was a great striker to be fair, it wasn't Tevez that killed United that season it was selling him in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, torryowl said: who's pep ?..... Tobismol, Monks long time assistant, he swears by him, apparently he's really good at settling things down 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, wakefieldinleed1 said: Monk did very well at Leeds, sadly tailed off towards end of season. Liked to play out of from the back, had good footballing defenders but didn’t over play, like say reading did under stam. Overall a nice style of play, quite attacking was quite good in the transfer market. Pablo has probably been our best pound for pound signing for years. Bartley another great loan signing. Had great backroom staff in Beattie and pep. Wood improved massively under Beattie. Left leeds, because he didn’t really want a director of football. Did feel he’d run his course at Leeds though. Wasn’t a great fan of his personality, abit smarmy, seemed to be all about him at times. Overall, think it’s a very good appointment for you but don’t expect miracles, if your players aren’t good enough, he’s not going to get massive improvement out of them Thanks for that. Sounds decent What's your opinion on Bielsa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I don't mind playing out from the back, if done with common sense ... Not philosophically like Bulgaria today This often leads to Bannan playing a deep lying playmaker role. While that role is popular in top level football, it's not with a large portion of our fanbase ... After a few bad results, I can see the stingers rearing their ugly butts again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, wakefieldinleed1 said: Birmingham was in difficult circumstances but they had some really good players Jota, Jutkiewicz, and Adams I would class as good players, but that doesn't make a team - especially so in this case as those three were all attacking players. And by the way, Adams had improved massively while Monk was there (no doubt down to working with Beattie). That he was able to forge a competitive team out of what is essentially a good front line deserves a lot of credit, and up until their points deduction, they were even making headway on the play-offs. It's also worth remembering that in his 15 months with them he'd barely been able to make any signings so the players that he was getting a tune out of were all overwhelmingly the squad he'd inherited; and since the side he took over looked very good for the drop, it's obvious he's got at least some talent in improving performance levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, cowl said: Jota, Jutkiewicz, and Adams I would class as good players, but that doesn't make a team - especially so in this case as those three were all attacking players. And by the way, Adams had improved massively while Monk was there (no doubt down to working with Beattie). That he was able to forge a competitive team out of what is essentially a good front line deserves a lot of credit, and up until their points deduction, they were even making headway on the play-offs. It's also worth remembering that in his 15 months with them he'd barely been able to make any signings so the players that he was getting a tune out of were all overwhelmingly the squad he'd inherited; and since the side he took over looked very good for the drop, it's obvious he's got at least some talent in improving performance levels. Agreed. Can't say he did anything other than a cracking job at Brum. Some of my family are Brum fans and they all really rated what he did there- most prefer him to Judas Bruce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, camffiti said: I don't mind playing out from the back, if done with common sense ... Not philosophically like Bulgaria today This often leads to Bannan playing a deep lying playmaker role. While that role is popular in top level football, it's not with a large portion of our fanbase ... After a few bad results, I can see the stingers rearing their ugly butts again That isn't true. It's not the 'role' and how it relates to what other teams do that our fans typically have a view about, but merely about Bannan playing deep - or more to the point, those times when he does so but fails to have an impact on the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, torryowl said: who's pep ?..... Moved on to manage Citeh I think. Not sure how he's getting on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, wakefieldinleed1 said: Monk did very well at Leeds, sadly tailed off towards end of season. Liked to play out of from the back, had good footballing defenders but didn’t over play, like say reading did under stam. Overall a nice style of play, quite attacking was quite good in the transfer market. Pablo has probably been our best pound for pound signing for years. Bartley another great loan signing. Had great backroom staff in Beattie and pep. Wood improved massively under Beattie. Left leeds, because he didn’t really want a director of football. Did feel he’d run his course at Leeds though. Wasn’t a great fan of his personality, abit smarmy, seemed to be all about him at times. Overall, think it’s a very good appointment for you but don’t expect miracles, if your players aren’t good enough, he’s not going to get massive improvement out of them Thanks for taking the trouble to do an assessment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Fair do's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Brommers said: Moved on to manage Citeh I think. Not sure how he's getting on. On verge of the sack, Won nowt and taken them backwards, poor football, poor recruiting. Need to stay well away from him if we are too progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnb Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Good summary thanks. Nothing new except the words L##ds and honest in the same sentence. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Monk is solid enough. He's got experience in dealing with big time Charlies, and we've a few of them at the club as well as working at this level in a Club that has the ability to be a force in the Prem. The Cowleys, like Jos, don't, and would have been cannon fodder as soon as we had a dip. Sometimes, managers and Clubs just click, Wilder at Utd, Moyes at Preston, Wagner at Udders are examples. I hope Monk can do it because tbh, I don't know where we go next if he can't. Good luck Gary Monk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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