Anyone else think Carlos was consulted

[Socialist_Owl]

3 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said:

Successful people often self promote... couldn't care less what he did before coming here, nor do I care what he does now. But he always speaks well of us. Did a good job, fell short, mistakes made.. we need to move on. Not sure why people spend time bashing him when they could bash some of the other truly hapless managers we've had over the years

Those hapless schmucks usually don't insert themselves in the club's current going ons

[Guest LondonOwl313]

1 minute ago, Socialist_Owl said:

Those hapless schmucks usually don't insert themselves in the club's current going ons

Wishing the new manager well isn't exactly inserting himself into the club's going ons is it

[Socialist_Owl]

It's enough.  "Welcome!". Come on.

 

Still forever angling.  There's a reason his CV has 40 different bulletpoints

Edited September 8, 2019 by Socialist_Owl

[Spookone]

11 hours ago, the monk said:

We have ....you 

Rude

[Spookone]

9 hours ago, LondonOwl313 said:

Successful people often self promote... couldn't care less what he did before coming here, nor do I care what he does now. But he always speaks well of us. Did a good job, fell short, mistakes made.. we need to move on. Not sure why people spend time bashing him when they could bash some of the other truly hapless managers we've had over the years

The vast majority of successful people self promote, especially in this day and age.

 

And some of our fans bash him because they’ve heard one of their mates doing it. 

[The only way is S6]

10 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

He's a crass opportunist.  If you fall for the schtick, that's on you.

 

Did you fall for the schtick & go to S6 against Brighton? Or, heaven forbid, fall for it twice & go to Wembley?

Hindsight comrade.

[Guest ka58]

18 hours ago, Mycroft said:

 

Your assumptions amaze me , how do you know it was the tactics and that he bottled?  It could have been many different reasons why we lost, something as simple as one player making a wrong decision which changed the whole course of the game.

 

From memory it was our inability to deal with the tall wide player that came on in the second half who completely changed the game.

[dorian gray]

12 hours ago, Rogers said:

 

And what a fantastic debate. 

 

 

AH! the return of yet another cocoette.

you joined in the postings for a while, then chose to leave.

there's 'no, but yeah, but no, but yeah' going on here.

i'm citing facts, and Mycroft is failing to take them apart, between you and me that's because there are no 'reasons' other than lack of a second tactic at wembley, and as for 'uddersfield I will borrow from others as I know no better than 'bottled it'.

[HIGHERSTATE]

Just like seeing your ex in a bar

 

All the resentment /love/regret comes rushing back

 

Didn't we almost have it all

 

Better off living in the present

[dorian gray]

13 hours ago, Mycroft said:

 

You didn't come up with any decent arguments.  On another day Wednesday would have won using the same tactics, the only difference between them was a brilliant goal out of nothing.  We could just have easily got that break.

 

Nothing much between them on the day. 

I have continuously posted you his two failings on the two biggest games he had, they are the 'decent arguments' you have failed to answer, now you load me with ammunition to take your defence further apart.

your statement of 'on another day wednesday would have won using the same tactics' surely you mean 'could' have won, not 'would' have won, as you've spent a great deal of time telling me how superior a side hull were in comparison to us.

also to look at your statement of 'on another day wednesday would have using the same tactics' shows that having accepted that they were winning and our attacks were bogging down in their half, we needed to change 'tactics' the very thing I stated at the start that he had no second tactic, he had no plan B, it was tiptap or bust, and it ended up bust.

you go on to state 'nothing much between them on the day', bruce must have been laughing his n*ckers off at our constant 'one eyed' approach, even more so after they took the lead.

the difference 'after' the day was they got the 'multi millions' for being promoted, whilst we spent more millions in the race to get where we are today, up against the P&S wall.

as for the totally disgraceful debacle of the second leg against 'uddersfield, 'bottled' is likely to be the best description for the no show.

to have drawn the first leg away, then not attempt to bury opposition who had a poor attacking record in the normal season and play offs too, is 'very questionable' to say the least.

[daveyboy66]

11 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

It's enough.  "Welcome!". Come on.

 

Still forever angling.  There's a reason his CV has 40 different bulletpoints

methinks the lady doth protest too much...you post like a jilted lover

 

[dorian gray]

12 hours ago, GEE said:

genuinly cannot believe people are slagging CC off for this tweet?? think it shows a bit of class and it also shows he's still in love with the Owls. think some fans have short memories first two seasons under CC was the best we've seen in 20 years 

and was it at the cost of more than the previous 20 years did put together?

hopefully every football manager would like to think he was capable of getting a better player for £8m than he would for £150k, though not always true, but then when did we get among the buy at £150k and sell for a fortune brigade?

[owlsdreamer]

Ridiculous thought that Coco was an influence.

 

[Inspector Lestrade]

3 hours ago, dorian gray said:

AH! the return of yet another cocoette.

you joined in the postings for a while, then chose to leave.

there's 'no, but yeah, but no, but yeah' going on here.

i'm citing facts, and Mycroft is failing to take them apart, between you and me that's because there are no 'reasons' other than lack of a second tactic at wembley, and as for 'uddersfield I will borrow from others as I know no better than 'bottled it'.

 

Lol all you have quoted is your opinion not facts at all. You keep forgetting it's all subjective.  

[pioowl]

On 07/09/2019 at 00:25, Westfield Owl said:

Hopefully we’ve cut all ties with that charlatan now.

Disgraceful comment .Do you even know what the word means/implies? If I were him I would sue you.

[dorian gray]

1 hour ago, Mycroft said:

Lol all you have quoted is your opinion not facts at all. You keep forgetting it's all subjective.  

it's not subjective at all. you keep saying that to cover the fact that you cannot answer my questions with adequate answers

anyone and everyone who knows or knew about football knew the game we'd play at wembley, we'd be on the ground, short passing, a lot of it square, involved in a monotonous build up.

we hadn't a team to go long to, but 1-0 down and 30mins to play should have seen helan thrown up front alongside nuhiu, with 15 to go one of the c/b's should have gone up, and with 5 to the second c/b goes too, in the last minute if you get a corner of free kick inside crossing distance 'apparently' the keeper goes.

I have quoted my 'opinion' it's built on a sound logic of football built up over the years, the only thing i'm looking to understand now is why you haven't replied with anything of any worth other than childish contradiction?

I initially thought you were just playing 'devils advocate', but late yesterday I came to the conclusion when you started posting half a line replies, you haven't the depth of football tactical knowledge to answer me. 

you showed it yesterday when you posted 'it could have been many different reasons why we lost, something as simple as one player making a wrong decision, which changed the whole course of the game'. name that player if that is true, i'll name you the men that decided that game, bruce and carlos.

 

[keepitsteel89]

On 07/09/2019 at 00:41, horny owl said:

If we’re consulting the likes of Carlos we might as well give up right now

 

Lets hope we’ve left that ‘loser mentality’ behind us

Carlos isn't a loser come on lets get real.. He fu8ed us over with his mismanagement of injuries and that effected us long after he was gone but he did it for what he belived were the right reasons ie he was pushing for promotion and more than likely misjudged any negative impact out of naivety. He gave us two very good seasons lets not forget that had we won one match we could be established in the prem right now.

 

He aint for everyone as a manger including me but hes no muppet 

[Inspector Lestrade]

23 minutes ago, dorian gray said:

it's not subjective at all. you keep saying that to cover the fact that you cannot answer my questions with adequate answers

anyone and everyone who knows or knew about football knew the game we'd play at wembley, we'd be on the ground, short passing, a lot of it square, involved in a monotonous build up.

we hadn't a team to go long to, but 1-0 down and 30mins to play should have seen helan thrown up front alongside nuhiu, with 15 to go one of the c/b's should have gone up, and with 5 to the second c/b goes too, in the last minute if you get a corner of free kick inside crossing distance 'apparently' the keeper goes.

I have quoted my 'opinion' it's built on a sound logic of football built up over the years, the only thing i'm looking to understand now is why you haven't replied with anything of any worth other than childish contradiction?

I initially thought you were just playing 'devils advocate', but late yesterday I came to the conclusion when you started posting half a line replies, you haven't the depth of football tactical knowledge to answer me. 

you showed it yesterday when you posted 'it could have been many different reasons why we lost, something as simple as one player making a wrong decision, which changed the whole course of the game'. name that player if that is true, i'll name you the men that decided that game, bruce and carlos.

 

Only read the first line of your post of course its subjective if you can't grasp that simple FACT then no point carrying on the discussion. 

[tarn owl]

So in summary Garry, if you do make a play-off final and then finish in the highest position the club achieved in 15 years and make the play-offs again the season after, but leave because of a drop off of results. Then dare to be on social media and wish the club good luck, then you will be a git and an opportunist and some will never want to see you at the club again..............Anyway good luck away at Huddersfield.

[dorian gray]

16 minutes ago, Mycroft said:

Only read the first line of your post of course its subjective if you can't grasp that simple FACT then no point carrying on the discussion. 

you've been after getting outa this discussion for nearly a whole day by now, as you're clearly in the 'silver medal' position, but sadly want the last word.

you can't begin to answer the failings of your hero at wembley, and home v 'uddersfield, because you know I have all the high ground on the issue, carlos was to blame for both. the first tactical naivety, the second totally bottled. 

disprove it.