vid80 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, wmb said: Got some right self entitled planks as fans us. Gary Monk is about as solid of an appointment as we could expect. Young, decent win percentage and got bags of championship experience. Leeds and Birmingham fans seem to rate him too and it seems he likes to play attractive football. Let’s look at the two most popular candidates: 1/ Chris Hughton: I know as fact that he was never even approached for the job. This is from a director of football who works in the championship currently who knows Chris Hughton well. 2/ The Cowley's: Would have been a gamble. They have done well at Lincoln and seem to be a fashionable choice. People compare them to Wilder but he did it at multiple clubs over a good few years so the comparison doesn’t really work. Completely agree mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, tommycockles said: So having an affinity with the club and preferring to stay somewhere it obvious he enjoys working is a bad thing?? . Being a first team coach at swfc is 'shocking lack of ambition'!!???. He said he'd love managers job here, so thats not ambitious enough for you???. He has 'seen and learnt from a variety of sources', all the managers he's played and coached under, and now he's bringing that experience and knowledge to a club he clearly feels strongly about. He's a coach, not the manager how has he 'gone stale', his day job is to run drills and training that the manager dictates!!!. He knows the club and the squad inside out, for me thats invaluable info to pass on to Monk to help him get up to speed asap Invaluable info???? I'd rather Monk and his crew make their own determinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 "see here Monky, make the recruits sing at dinner and Big Dave on at no later than 70 mins - the hold up play is a game changer!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Invaluable info???? I'd rather Monk and his crew make their own determinations. So instead of getting first hand knowledge 6 games into the season, you feel its preferable to have Monk come in knowing very little and have to work it all out from scratch!!!???, you expect him to find his own office and lav's as wel!!!?? Oh and currently Bullen IS Monk's only crew!!! Edited September 6, 2019 by tommycockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, s29wfc said: Bruce 's press conference was exactly the same yet none of this bed wetting. A proportion of our fan base will moan at literally anything. Is that a moan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I notice the length of Monk's contract hasn't been revealed!!!, are we in 1 year rolling territory!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axolotl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) People talk like a professional football manager who has managed at this level for a good few seasons wouldn't be able to figure out the strengths and weaknesses of our squad pretty damn quickly. If it was that hard to do, we would be unbeatable as no bugger would know what to expect when we rock up. Edited September 6, 2019 by axolotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, axolotl said: People talk like a professional football manager who has managed at this level for a good few seasons wouldn't be able to figure out the strengths and weaknesses of our squad pretty damn quickly. If it was that hard to do, we would be unbeatable as no bugger would know what to expect when we rock up. By that logic, we would be the opposition for the other team, and thus they would be just as unfathomable & unbeatable!, so draws all round then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 50 minutes ago, full fathom five said: If Hughton was never approached for the job then DC really is being badly advised. it doesn't mean we didn't have him sounded out but unbelievable if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axolotl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, tommycockles said: By that logic, we would be the opposition for the other team, and thus they would be just as unfathomable & unbeatable!, so draws all round then!! That's my point. Having someone who "knows the squad" etc isn't a necessity, as any half-decent manager will assess and learn the players, and their strengths, pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7214509/Middlesbroughs-new-bombshell-accusations-Garry-Monk.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Manwithastick said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7214509/Middlesbroughs-new-bombshell-accusations-Garry-Monk.html wouldn't surprise me this will be news to DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 A history of Monks management record 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriceAPP Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: “Things moves fast over the last 48 hours” when the Cowleys turned us down I reckon :-( Let’s face it - it looks like they’ve turned everyone down that’s been linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Manwithastick said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7214509/Middlesbroughs-new-bombshell-accusations-Garry-Monk.html To outsiders it signalled the obvious end of his career. The dealings with that agent have led to disputes with both of his latest clubs. The sacking from Birmingham and the legal investigations by Middlesbrough. Chansiri will probably make him head of recruitment with Paxao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: Henry VIII syndrome. Very good, Jim Bowen would have been proud of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TodwickOwl Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 We’ve got the best championship experiences manager out there who is out of work and wants to be here. I don’t get the whole anti Monk stance already and this absolutely sums up our negative fanbase in one rather than give the bloke a fair shot. When he’s come to Hillsborough with his teams I’ve been impressed and his name has been banded round on here before prior to Bruce, now just because the Cowleys aren’t here he’s suddenly a bad gaffer and the rest of the excuses. He will quickly sound us out and has a track record of getting the best out of a team. Only Wednesdayites could be disappointed we’ve signed a solid Championship manager and not an inexperienced manager who’s never managed at this level, ever. Ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: We’ve got the best championship experiences manager out there who is out of work and wants to be here. I don’t get the whole anti Monk stance already and this absolutely sums up our negative fanbase in one rather than give the bloke a fair shot. When he’s come to Hillsborough with his teams I’ve been impressed and his name has been banded round on here before prior to Bruce, now just because the Cowleys aren’t here he’s suddenly a bad gaffer and the rest of the excuses. He will quickly sound us out and has a track record of getting the best out of a team. Only Wednesdayites could be disappointed we’ve signed a solid Championship manager and not an inexperienced manager who’s never managed at this level, ever. Ridiculous I get the feeling that the fans were hoping for a manager who could come in and enthuse the fanbase, raise the moral. Whilst he has decent track record he's no messiah. Such as Atkinson, Charlton or dare I say it Carlos. Time will tell if he's successful, get a few quick wins under his belt and the fans will have more belief in him get off to a bad start then he will have an uphill battle convincing them he's the man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Mycroft said: I get the feeling that the fans were hoping for a manager who could come in and enthuse the fanbase, raise the moral. Whilst he has decent track record he's no messiah. Such as Atkinson, Charlton or dare I say it Carlos. Time will tell if he's successful, get a few quick wins under his belt and the fans will have more belief in him get off to a bad start then he will have an uphill battle convincing them he's the man for the job. We are in such a dreamland though Bruce was the best appointment we’ve made in 20 odd years, it’s few and far between Every new gaffer should be worshipped by us until they do wrong, just get behind the bloody team everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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