ZicoSterland2 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, bigrbuk said: If I were them, these are things I'd be raising with (our) DC during talks. Would I be given license to ship out whoever I wanted. They need the players buy in, will they be allowed to get it whatever way necessary. I agree would have been far easier for any incoming manager at the end of season as quite a few players are out of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Maybe a new structure with a DoF who can act as a mentor or sounding board would help with the transition....they could focus on the day to day training and getting the team performing their way in the first few months without the concern of managing the press or infrastructure changes eg. Training ground improvement When the success kicks in they can pick up other areas of responsibility Oh for a Howard Wilkinson now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Oh for a Howard Wilkinson now. Absolutely, someone with a bit of status in the game and wants to help the Cowley s to succeed...and the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, nbupperthongowl said: Absolutely, someone with a bit of status in the game and wants to help the Cowley s to succeed...and the club Too many PE teachers spoiling the broth? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, gurujuan said: As I said, all these guys are one wrong choice away from destroying what they’ve painstakingly built. It’s not beyond the realms of fantasy, that we might be the Cowley’s Ipswich or Stoke. Let’s hope not, and in a way, does one bad fit, mean that the likes of Jones and Hurst, can’t come again? Certainly. No manager at any level guarantees success. So really any manager is a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, 1993swfc said: Certainly. No manager at any level guarantees success. So really any manager is a gamble. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, debram said: OK low level but the working theory is the same but with access to better quality players. Yes, but this also means they would be having to face better quality managers too. Making strategies & tactical decisions even more decisive or disasterus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, shezzas left peg said: Yes, but this also means they would be having to face better quality managers too. Making strategies & tactical decisions even more decisive or disasterus. Agree but think its a chance we should take, unless DC has an ace up his sleeve, pulis/rowett etc are run of the mill with no x factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 It seems that some people would rather have proven failure than potential. I have never been more excited by a manager appointment than this. They may fail. But my god they have a wonderful record to date and have the potential to take us far further than any other candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 In reality you just don’t know... It’s much easier to lead a plucky underdog where expectations and pressure are lower vs a place where expectation and ego are through the roof. Personally I think that’s why we need someone whose reputation and status is bigger than SWFC but again, every hire is a gamble...and every manager has as much chance succeeding as the next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The known known here is that Bullen isn't up to it.. any appointment is a gamble.. but gamble we must. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, bigrbuk said: If I were them, these are things I'd be raising with (our) DC during talks. Would I be given license to ship out whoever I wanted. They need the players buy in, will they be allowed to get it whatever way necessary. Yep i think that would be the deciding factor, not £1.5m or £2 m per year. Their reputation would be on the line, if dc says no, we will get the players in and your job is to coach them, think they will say thanks but no thanks. Or maybe he will say yes with a big but..we cannot spend more than x£'s in jan..then they would have a difficult choice to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, gurujuan said: As I said, all these guys are one wrong choice away from destroying what they’ve painstakingly built. It’s not beyond the realms of fantasy, that we might be the Cowley’s Ipswich or Stoke. Let’s hope not, and in a way, does one bad fit, mean that the likes of Jones and Hurst, can’t come again? Hurst had better start winning at Scunthorpe soon or that'll be two failures on the trot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Personally I think that’s why we need someone whose reputation and status is bigger than SWFC Mourinho maybe? Why would they come to Hillsborough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said: A new manager needs respect.We have a team of mainly old seasoned professionals if they would accept the Cowleys on their record so far is open to debate. These old seasoned professionals you are on about will be on their way soon if they don’t produce this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Of course I would want anyone to succeed as manager at Wednesday but would be a really good story if it was with the Cowleys with their background in the game. Plays a bit to the football romantic in me. Bit like Jamie Vardy with his rise from Non league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts Owl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Add to this they have an eye for young talent, they could shake this team up and give us more balance and a bit of young hungry players in the mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejay Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said: A new manager needs respect.We have a team of mainly old seasoned professionals if they would accept the Cowleys on their record so far is open to debate. This is exactly my concern, although you’d expect any half intelligent coach to realise this and tailor their approach accordingly. Time will tell, but it’s clearly something Jones is up against at Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Junglejay said: This is exactly my concern, although you’d expect any half intelligent coach to realise this and tailor their approach accordingly. Time will tell, but it’s clearly something Jones is up against at Stoke. Mate...if you want respect and authority in a club..you don't change your ways for spoilt players...hiding to nothing that way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: Mourinho maybe? Why would they come to Hillsborough? Steve Bruce did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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