Ellis Rimmer Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Carlos's football was painful to watch towards the end, I don't regret him leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Binky Griptite said: I don't necessarily want him back but if his record at Hillsborough had been achieved at some foreign second division club in an equally respectable country, then he'd gone on to manage in that countries top division he'd be pretty high up the betting odds through Owls lumping on in the hope he came here. His CV, even at this stage, is far better than many of the fancies to take on the job here which just goes to show you need an element of fortune when appointing anyone. His management was a success for two season, then it wasn't. We should be neither championing nor vilifying him. He's now just a line in the history books. Just looking up the meaning of success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, RevOwl said: If only we had stuck with Carlos. We'd have been up now or certainly would be by the end of this season. A 42.75% win rate and a few bad results and he's gone. He loved the club and still does and gave us the biggest success we've had for years. Now we're a very average side without a permanent manager with falling gate numbers and fans that have lost heart. Thanks for your time Carlos and sorry from all of us that wanted success in the same way as you did. Drugs, there not for everybody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, RevOwl said: If only we had stuck with Carlos. We'd have been up now or certainly would be by the end of this season. A 42.75% win rate and a few bad results and he's gone. He loved the club and still does and gave us the biggest success we've had for years. Now we're a very average side without a permanent manager with falling gate numbers and fans that have lost heart. Thanks for your time Carlos and sorry from all of us that wanted success in the same way as you did. Not sure what was intended by this post, but there’s a lot of it I’d agree with. Carlos was certainly not without his faults, but really his record speaks for itself Two play offs in his only two full seasons, is pretty impressive. Granted we spent a lot of money in those two seasons, but I’m not sure Carlos had much of a say in who we bought. In fact, by season two, he was working with such a hotch potch of players, and dealing with an injury crisis that would derail most sides, and yet he still got us to the play offs again. He did it by devising a system of playing, though not pretty to watch, that managed to overcome our shortcomings. The inverted wingers playing narrow thing, was definitely not my cup of tea, so much so, that for a while I stopped going. Tactically though, he was pretty good, often coming up with a solution to the problems we faced. Would he have pulled things around in season three, who knows, he doesn’t have a history of staying long in one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydubz Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 hours ago, RevOwl said: If only we had stuck with Carlos. We'd have been up now or certainly would be by the end of this season. A 42.75% win rate and a few bad results and he's gone. He loved the club and still does and gave us the biggest success we've had for years. Now we're a very average side without a permanent manager with falling gate numbers and fans that have lost heart. Thanks for your time Carlos and sorry from all of us that wanted success in the same way as you did. Please dont post ever again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) In hindsight, there were a lot of good moments under Carlos. It went sour by the time he left, but I look back on it with fond memories. I miss the club and fanbase being together. Edited September 3, 2019 by Castleford Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I thought Carlos was a bad appointment when he first took over but think I was wrong with us getting to the play off final and playing entertaining football. However Carlos style of management only ever has a limited shelf life. Comes in charms everyone and makes training easier but after a while that soon wares off and things go stale. Should have gone after the Huddersfield play off defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, matthefish2002 said: I thought Carlos was a bad appointment when he first took over but think I was wrong with us getting to the play off final and playing entertaining football. However Carlos style of management only ever has a limited shelf life. Comes in charms everyone and makes training easier but after a while that soon wares off and things go stale. Should have gone after the Huddersfield play off defeat. Yes mixed feelings, but he is the best coach we have employed for many years. As I said, I didn’t like the tactics he devised in season two, but I can understand why he decided to employ them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes mixed feelings, but he is the best coach we have employed for many years. As I said, I didn’t like the tactics he devised in season two, but I can understand why he decided to employ them. If he'd have just stuck to the first season formula (on the pitch) and not been so relaxed at training and bottling it at crucial times then we'd have got to the so called promised land .. but i guess thats the margins between success and failure. ultimately we failed twice under his stewardship. The defeat to Huddersfield quite possibly one of the worst results in his tenure given how easy it was to get to the final and beyind. Reading ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 hours ago, RevOwl said: If only we had stuck with Carlos. We'd have been up now or certainly would be by the end of this season. A 42.75% win rate and a few bad results and he's gone. He loved the club and still does and gave us the biggest success we've had for years. Now we're a very average side without a permanent manager with falling gate numbers and fans that have lost heart. Thanks for your time Carlos and sorry from all of us that wanted success in the same way as you did. What ground bait are you using? You seem to have caught a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The ridiculous number of injuries in his 3rd season was a factor in the poor form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Never get the hate for him.. was the best two years we’ve had in the last 20. Went stale at the end though and was right to move on. Too many people lump him in with Jos but they’re complete opposites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Atkinson, Sturrock, Gray i would say fit more. I think Carlos just went slightly mad after the derby game and results disappeared. If he had steadied the ship after that game he might have survived. But i accept we don't know for sure what would have happened if we gave managers longer than we do now. I think get the tin hat on though because Carlos is not liked on here by many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioowl Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 11 hours ago, RevOwl said: If only we had stuck with Carlos. We'd have been up now or certainly would be by the end of this season. A 42.75% win rate and a few bad results and he's gone. He loved the club and still does and gave us the biggest success we've had for years. Now we're a very average side without a permanent manager with falling gate numbers and fans that have lost heart. Thanks for your time Carlos and sorry from all of us that wanted success in the same way as you did. Good post that.Unusual on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I genuinely think there's more chance we'd be up if chansiri had kept Stuart Gray in charge than Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binky Griptite Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 hours ago, the monk said: Just looking up the meaning of success (Relative) success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 hours ago, WelshOwl74 said: He did he came to Swansea ,started well then did his usual trick and bottled it at the final leg Not really interested in any Carlos debate, but for the sake of fairness, weren’t Swansea almost down when he arrived? Won a few, gave them hope, then the inevitable return to what they were before he arrived, It’s not as if they were flying & he then fu****d it up. I honestly think history will remember CCs reign in a better light than some on here as years go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Regrets...............only lumping on Rowett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 21 hours ago, bigthinrob said: Not really interested in any Carlos debate, but for the sake of fairness, weren’t Swansea almost down when he arrived? Won a few, gave them hope, then the inevitable return to what they were before he arrived, It’s not as if they were flying & he then fu****d it up. I honestly think history will remember CCs reign in a better light than some on here as years go by. He burnt a core group out trying to get us up.. that's not a reign.. it's self interested short termism.imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The only regret I have is saying the licence plate thread was scraping the bottom of the barrel. This thread is infinitely worse. Apologies @A12owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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