"Owlstalk 70's and 80's ..."

[Lord Snooty]

(Or has technology made us a bit weirder/mardier/ )

 

I sometimes wish football was simpler like it used to be.  Not just the rules, and the offside law actually being easy to understand, but all the other stuff. Being able to just turn up. Just watching the game and either enjoying it or getting the face on and then forgetting it. Rather than it being a 24 hour thing.   
But my mind wanders…..what would have been like if the modern technology of the game had existed then? Would we have handled it better? Were we more easy going?  If there were multiple cameras at every ground rather than the rarity it was when you saw the big waggon parked up “Tellies here today!” If the internet and twitter and Facebook had existed ,and the computer games and the wall to wall TV analysis that make tactical experts of everybody.
 

 

 

I don't know. 

I just think I think about football too much these days. Do we all?  It doesn't make me cry like it used to. But on the other hand I cried and that was that. Now...I might not cry. But it's 24/7

Would we have coped with the technology back then. Would we have embraced it. Would we have been less knee-jerk. (I don't just mean us, I mean all fans) 

I don't know. 

 

 

would we have been more chilled. Just had a beer and mumped and then got on with it. Or would it have been the same as now. 

Has the online 24/7 online world replaced the chat down the pub. Or is it more than that. Has it made us different to what we used to be.

 

Wednesday in need of a manager for example how would that have played out?

I don't remember ever having massive debates about possible managers in the past? Would it have been like it is now? There were some you liked and wanted. But we didn't have the info at our fingertips of every manager in the world then.

What would it have been like on here...

 

 Clough

•     “Not for me, he’s nearly took Brighton to the 4^th division!”
•     “He was brilliant at Derby. Just the type we need.”
•     “Aye till he resigned coz he didn’t get his own way. He’s never off the telly anyroad, he’s more bothered about himsen. He’s too arrogant.”
•     “I think we should go for him. He’s a Big character it’s just what we need”
•     “No, no. If he isn’t good enough for L**ds he isn’t good enough for us”

 

Clough gets appointed and wins a couple and loses a couple

•    “He’s nowt wi’out Taylor. He were the brains behind the outfit I’m telling you. Cloughs never at training ground in the week!”
•    “It’s all right playing nicey nicey football but it’s a results business.”
•    “Can’t we give him a chance!”
•    “He keeps picking that Robertson, he’s too slow”
•    “Got a great cross on him though”
•    “He’s only good with money to spend. A million pounds. F*cking lunacy!”

 

 

Ferguson

•    “Young up and coming manager. Someone who might build something to last. It’s time we took a gamble instead of the same old names”
•    “He manages in Scotland! It’s the equivalent of the Redgates League. Larry Grayson could win a cup up there”
•    “His teams try and attack”
•    “He got sacked from East Stirling!”
•    “It wasn’t because of the football though”
•    “No he was trying to fix bonuses for the players. I don’t want someone like that at my club”
•    “We need someone with experience of the English Leagues!”
•    “l like the way his St Mirren team plays with attacking wingers.”
•    “Aye, so did Partick Thistle when they battered ‘em 6-0. He’s tactically naïve!”
•    “Don’t want him learning his trade here. We need the finished article”

 

Ferguson comes. Wins a couple loses a couple.

 

 

• "He just sat there in the dugout chewing gum, he didn't know what to do! "

•    “I don’t know why he’s signed that Hughes, he’s all arse and elbows. We need a pacy young striker who can bag us 30 goals.”
•    “He’s bringing the kids through though. We need to back him”
•    “It’s been 8 draws and a defeat! If we don’t win that FA Cup game against Forest with a fortuitous Mark Robbins goal on Saturday he’s got to go. He’s not experienced enough. “
•    “I don’t know why he’s signed that Irwin and then put him at left back. He’s all right foot. Played right back for Oldham. He’s shoehorning players all over the shop. He just picks his favourites.”
•    “I’ve heard he’s took bitter AND lager off the menu at the training ground. No wonder the players don’t like him. You can’t do stuff like that.”
•    "If Lee Martin is the answer we're asking the wrong question!"
•    “Aye. Somebody told me he’s stopped Tony Galvin going for a half time pint an’all”

 

 

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Y’know. I can’t wait for Saturday, I feel a bit restless.  I might need a snooze.

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2019 by Lord Snooty

[Ibbo48]

Nail on head as usual Snooty.

Much more enjoyable back then.

We went, they won, they lost.

We moaned or celebrated in the pub Saturday night. Then it was gone and on to the next match.

PL and Social media have screwed the game for ever

[owler66]

Owlstalk would've been in meltdown in the summer of 84 when Wilkinson replaced Big Jack a fecking ex PE teacher, pity there aren't any Ex PE teachers around today we could hire and make a big success of it 

[Inspector Lestrade]

No tickets, you woke on the morning of the game home or away and if you fancied it off you went.

 

Now you have to join summat,  get enough points, apply for tickets, collect tickets, get searched, present tickets all this time worrying that you might have lost it.

 

You just turned up home or away and always got in pretty quickly. 

[Ibbo48]

‘ Keith Ellis up front against Man U away ? You must be joking.

’ How the hell did Springett let that half hit shot by Baldwin just trickle past him? Cost us the Cup. Useless.

’That Gerry Young should never play first team football again after that blunder. Just not good enough.

 Good job they were simpler , more forgiving times

[ChapSmurf]

I guess it depends what else would be introduced off of the "football technology" you talk about . Would we have phones like we do now, tablets, laptops, the giant social media platforms which we can gorge on over our 512Mb broadband connections? If we had, then I doubt it would be any different, even if other technologies hadn't quote caught up. 

 

But it's not the technology that's to blame; it's a change in human psychology brought on by the anonymity of the screen. It's something people hide behind, re-invent themselves through, and it's that, in my opinion, which has changed our attitudes towards the game and many other aspects of life. And I salute it, because it gives everyone a voice, and as we all know, it doesn't take long for people to know who they should, and shouldn't listen to.

 

I SAID, it doesn't take lon.....oh FFS!

[The only way is S6]

Pay on the day with pound notes. In them days, an 'all ticket match' meant it was a special game. Big fixture on the calendar & then turn up to see all the TV lorries there. We're gonna be on MOTD! Might even be the main match. 

Young boys, in the park, isn't it, wasn't it? Marvellous.

Rolling off the train special & being herded around. Feeling a bit notorius with a police escort. Crap really but entertaining.

[owler66]

23 minutes ago, owler66 said:

Owlstalk would've been in meltdown in the summer of 84 when Wilkinson replaced Big Jack a fecking ex PE teacher, pity there aren't any Ex PE teachers around today we could hire and make a big success of it 

It was the summer of 83 you thick get 

[steelowl]

social media back then was the green un queue

 

tremendous banter  that's if you knew the result,  who scored, where you were in the league etc  miss those times tbh 

you had to read it fast cos yer dad wanted to read it and god forbid you creased it

but later there was nowt like savouring a greenun when we won and especially with a city double 

[steelowl]

27 minutes ago, owler66 said:

Owlstalk would've been in meltdown in the summer of 84 when Wilkinson replaced Big Jack a fecking ex PE teacher, pity there aren't any Ex PE teachers around today we could hire and make a big success of it 

 

there are:  the Cowleys ex pe teacher 

[owler66]

4 minutes ago, steelowl said:

 

there are:  the Cowleys ex pe teacher 

Oh thanks didn't know that 

[Costello 77]

When I think back..there was always someone walking in the pub.. tapping a newspaper with the back of their hand..here have a look at this and we'd crowd round and look..the local papers were a big thing then..

[Ibbo48]

1 minute ago, Costello 77 said:

When I think back..there was always someone walking in the pub.. tapping a newspaper with the back of their hand..here have a look at this and we'd crowd round and look..the local papers were a big thing then..

 

They were mate. I was a newsagent in those days and I shifted loads on the back of a good result

[Flat Owl]

Would have saved a fortune in Green'Uns and half my youth watching final score through the window of Radio Rentals in the p1ssing rain at Hillsborough Corner.....

[Lord Snooty]

5 minutes ago, ChapSmurf said:

It's something people hide behind, re-invent themselves through, and it's that, in my opinion, which has changed our attitudes towards the game and many other aspects of life. And I salute it, because it gives everyone a voice, and as we all know, it doesn't take long for people to know who they should, and shouldn't listen to.

 

I SAID, it doesn't take lon.....oh FFS!

 

That raises something I was talking about with a pal a while ago. 

 

There's this popular thing about intent warriors hiding behind their usernames etc etc.  

Yet we both noted and agreed that some of the very worst diatribe is actually on Facebook and Twitter with people using their own names!

 

Yet on here , where you can really fo under cover... it doesn't seem half as bad or abused.  There's the odd heated debate. Or WUM. 

 

The oddest are the ones who abuse players using their own names. 

[steelowl]

6 minutes ago, owler66 said:

Oh thanks didn't know that 

[The Dukeries Owl]

Listening to to Bob Jackson's phone in on the radio along Penistone Road in my Dad's Cortina then queuing up outside the newsagents waiting for the Green Un, that was social media back then.

[daveyboy66]

If you've got anything to say I'll see you in the Barrac...err Ozzie Owl Club...but you'll have to wait until the blue comediennes and strippers have finished...unless Chelsea turn up on our Kop in whch it's every man for himself EBRA  Rulez  

[ChapSmurf]

2 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

 

That raises something I was talking about with a pal a while ago. 

 

There's this popular thing about intent warriors hiding behind their usernames etc etc.  

Yet we both noted and agreed that some of the very worst diatribe is actually on Facebook and Twitter with people using their own names!

 

Yet on here , where you can really fo under cover... it doesn't seem half as bad or abused.  There's the odd heated debate. Or WUM. 

 

The oddest are the ones who abuse players using their own names. 

 

I've not thought of that - in this context - but you and your pal are bang on the money. Why do people do that I wonder? Do you think they forgot "where" they are, and almost feel like they are having a private one-on-one conversation? Or do they just not care anymore? I hate to say it, but I think it's the latter. But as I said, everyone should have a voice; for me it's just a question of who I filter out.

 

Maybe on here, because deep down we all share the one common denominator, even when there are heated debates or WUM's goin off fishing, we somewhere still connect despite the diatribe, unless it becomes personal and abusive, which fortunately it doesn't often.

 

It's an interesting debate you've started.

[Lord Snooty]

13 minutes ago, ChapSmurf said:

 

Maybe on here, because deep down we all share the one common denominator, even when there are heated debates or WUM's goin off fishing, we somewhere still connect despite the diatribe, unless it becomes personal and abusive, which fortunately it doesn't often.

 

It's an interesting debate you've started.

 

I've had some great debates on here.  Some friendly , some at times a bit  lively, sometimes getting very snarky, but never any abuse that I can remember.  I've still got a couple of the old sparring partners. Some I think enjoy and deliberately  give me a little playful jab with the needle to get me going sometimes!!  But all in good spirit. I think! From my end anyway!

 

I've hardly dished out any negs in all my time on here. I'd always rather debate the point, even with folks who wont budge ay all! The few I have, have been when people have gone beyond the pale, wishing death on folks, that sort of thing. 

 

The ones I never understand are the zero post neggers. Who never have their say.  Come on in and join the debate. It's always interesting to see what and why people don't agree.