A E Neuman NYowl Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I think 2 or 3 years ago we had a lot a value in our playing staff and selling the Crown Jewels off would have brought in a good percentage of what he has forked out. We just missed out on the playoffs and looked like a club on the up so potentially more suitors. Now there is no where near the same value in the playing staff and DC has pumped loads more money in. The only way to get a return on his investment is the premiership, so I think he will stick it out, but I would expect to less investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Hamakua Pueo said: But owning a football club is a really stupid way to try to make money. It doesn't matter whether you are considering buying it, or already own it. Selling the Club now to cut his losses is the only smart play for him. Continuing to throw money into a hole in the hopes of winning the PL lottery is it irrational. But then there never was any evidence that Chansiri is a rational actor. Do any of the bigger, wealthier owners do it to make money. I don’t think they do. I reckon it’s more to do with prestige & the challenge that goes with English football. I think it’s the two bob millionaires who try to make a quick buck, exactly like the Bury no mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I personally don’t see ANY sign of DC pulling out. I wrote in a previous thread that I think DC is an honourable man who will see it as his duty to finish what he has started. More the reason for some previous detractors to realise what we have in DC. ( although not beyond REASONED criticism) and to fully support what he is trying to do, not without considerable interference from the well documented usual suspects from the Council & SYP. PS Don’t forget his son’s involvement. That can be a huge influence, even on the wealthiest businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 21 hours ago, Not Jon Newsome said: Yes if no buyer was found to plug the holes, same as every other club. Overspending is rife amongst pretty much every EFL club, saying that more money should filter down from the Premier League doesn't really help matters either, all it will do is contribute to more over spend. If parachute payments were ceased and this money spread amongst all EFL clubs think it would ease finances lower down and would take some heat out of Championship I do not think it would stop over spending but would certainly reduce overspending. if clubs got promoted it would mean would only get inflated money for years present in premiership. There is also a major case for saying Championship should get much more TV money as it accounts for a substantial proportion of Sky TV coverage as they no longer have Spanish football and have given up on football from other countries. The were putting on MLS from US which was absolute rubbish. many Championship games are highly entertaining and often feature major clubs in the country who are amongst 20 best supported. Hence think major shake up should occur and is well overdue. Think demise of Bury and perhaps Bolton will put thinking caps on and realise some change required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, bigthinrob said: I personally don’t see ANY sign of DC pulling out. I wrote in a previous thread that I think DC is an honourable man who will see it as his duty to finish what he has started. More the reason for some previous detractors to realise what we have in DC. ( although not beyond REASONED criticism) and to fully support what he is trying to do, not without considerable interference from the well documented usual suspects from the Council & SYP. PS Don’t forget his son’s involvement. That can be a huge influence, even on the wealthiest businessman. I wouldn't question Chansiri being honourable but dont you think he is out of his depth? Edited August 28, 2019 by matthefish2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 23 hours ago, Dizzys Dad said: Would we be in a similar position as Bolton and Bury? I would imagine any future owner, would have a devil of a job buying us off him. Am I worrying over nothing or is this a possible scenario? I think Mr Chansiri has said on a number of cations, he’s here for the long haul. After all the dealings he’s done just a lately tells me he’s not going anywhere !!! UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: I think Mr Chansiri has said on a number of cations, he’s here for the long haul. After all the dealings he’s done just a lately tells me he’s not going anywhere !!! UTO He is bound to say he is here for the long haul even if he wasn't. He is in financially in too deep that he is very, very unlikely to find a buyer even if he wanted half back of what he has spent so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It doesn't really matter whether he has had enough - what matters is that he continues to have access to the money needed to keep feeding the cash burning machine he has built at Wednesday. As with any business the trouble starts when the cash runs out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: We've been swimming in poo for a while, it won't drown us. I've just been thinking, Sarge, that if we did indeed switch to a kit with brown and white stripes, brown shorts and brown socks with white tops then we'd have to have the stadium painted brown too. Mind you, at least that would ensure that the stadium got a lick of paint for once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: He is bound to say he is here for the long haul even if he wasn't. He is in financially in too deep that he is very, very unlikely to find a buyer even if he wanted half back of what he has spent so far. I genuinely believe he loves the club, and will do anything he can to make us successful again. !!! UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: I've just been thinking, Sarge, that if we did indeed switch to a kit with brown and white stripes, brown shorts and brown socks with white tops then we'd have to have the stadium painted brown too. Mind you, at least that would ensure that the stadium got a lick of paint for once. Problem is, anything brown and we'd be associated with those sh1tstains in S2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, kevtheowl said: I genuinely believe he loves the club, and will do anything he can to make us successful again. !!! UTO Dont think he is a bad bloke but think he brought the club as a bit of an ego trip myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Dont think he is a bad bloke but think he brought the club as a bit of an ego trip myself. bit like your posts on here then...although you haven't contributed financially...why are our fans so self entitled...I just don't get it given our history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 DC Must still be feeling it ,He treat that slime ball Bruce with Honour and compassion ,Bruce told him of a promise to his Dad with the cricket etc,DC Gave him time to attend ,Then Bruce betrays him ,I would Imagine he is still feeling the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 9 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: I wouldn't question Chansiri being honourable but dont you think he is out of his depth? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 9 hours ago, kevtheowl said: I think Mr Chansiri has said on a number of cations, he’s here for the long haul. After all the dealings he’s done just a lately tells me he’s not going anywhere !!! UTO Free transfers and not appointing a manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Rogers said: Free transfers and not appointing a manager You do realise free doesn’t mean free. Or maybe you don’t. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, kevtheowl said: You do realise free doesn’t mean free. Or maybe you don’t. UTO No I don’t. Does it mean they play for free Edited August 29, 2019 by Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 14 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Dont think he is a bad bloke but think he brought the club as a bit of an ego trip myself. Tbf, that's him and a large percentage of owners. You'll be hard pressed to find many owners who purchase a club for altruistic reasons. Usually, a club is bought to sell on for profit (Milan) or as a bit of a vanity/ego project. Dont have a problem with it, as long as they do a good job. Admittedly, we could have a very lengthy debate on if Chansiri has done that or not. Still - could be a lot worse. We could have a Ken Anderson or Steve Dale at the helm... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Rogers said: No I don’t. Does it mean they play for free Idiot !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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