Costello 77 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: There's no love fest for Fox, but if we sell him it leaves us with Obubajo, Palmer, Thorniley (at a push), Baker and Thorniley to cover both left and right fullback until January 1st. Selling Fox right now would leave us incredibly weak at fullback for half the season Aren't you going to join in the fun of moving half the team around to facilitate getting rid of a scapegoat for insignificant money? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Nobody , I just don’t get this love fest with Fox I don't think there is a love fest just defending him against unjust criticism. He's a much better player than the one we all maligned 18 months ago. Is he good enough to get us promoted? Probably not. But he is the best option we have at the moment so getting rid would be crazy. 2019 Fox looks much better than 2019 Odabajo and I'd argue he is more consistent than Iorfa. Thus Fox and Palmer remain our best options IMO. Now questions can certainly be asked why we have ended up in another season with those two as our best options. But that is the situation we find ourselves in. In that situation, Fox is far from the biggest issue and thus should get support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If we had the option to replace him I would probably be okay with letting him go. However we don’t have that option so would keep him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Aren't you going to join in the fun of moving half the team around to facilitate getting rid of a scapegoat for insignificant money? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, torres said: I think it’s best for all parties he goes Palmer is currently our best left back - after that Fox, Odabajo and Thorniley are all much of a muchness Get through til Jan and then invest Id support that theory, been given a rough ride by the fans, dont blame him wanting to go. Bit of cash in and re invest in the transfer window. Edited August 26, 2019 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: Screw it, let's sell Fox and stick Odubajo and Reach at fullback. Westwood Lees Borner Odubajo Hutch Reach Lee Bannan Harris Forestieri Fletcher All out attacking nonsense, win every game 5-4... ffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: There's no love fest for Fox, but if we sell him it leaves us with Obubajo, Palmer, Thorniley (at a push), Baker and Thorniley to cover both left and right fullback until January 1st. Selling Fox right now would leave us incredibly weak at fullback for half the season It will also force our hand and make a left back high priority, I’m sure we coped ok last season when Fox wasn’t playing and Penney was out injured . If the lads not happy and wants to leave why keep him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrodge Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Would be strange to let him go as we don't have an out an out replacement Would leave Palmer as first choice Odabajo, Thorniley and potentially Reach can all do a job there as backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Depends on the price. If it’s decent money we probably won’t get offered it again. Lad wants to go, fans aren’t keen. I think we could manage till January but it really is a position we need to strengthen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, dewsburyowl58 said: It will also force our hand and make a left back high priority, I’m sure we coped ok last season when Fox wasn’t playing and Penney was out injured . If the lads not happy and wants to leave why keep him ? A high priority that we can't address for 4 months. A high priority that you have to wait 4 months to address is an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, alanharper said: Maldini is out of contract. Or Brian Barry-Murphy Bizarrely I prefer the shouts for Martin Olsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Leaping Lannys Perm said: I don't think there is a love fest just defending him against unjust criticism. He's a much better player than the one we all maligned 18 months ago. Is he good enough to get us promoted? Probably not. But he is the best option we have at the moment so getting rid would be crazy. 2019 Fox looks much better than 2019 Odabajo and I'd argue he is more consistent than Iorfa. Thus Fox and Palmer remain our best options IMO. Now questions can certainly be asked why we have ended up in another season with those two as our best options. But that is the situation we find ourselves in. In that situation, Fox is far from the biggest issue and thus should get support. Yes but the opening post says he wants to leave !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: A high priority that we can't address for 4 months. A high priority that you have to wait 4 months to address is an oxymoron. That’s correct , I don’t want players picked who want to leave and who in my opinion just don’t cut it . How on earth did we manage last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Someone is actually offering us cash money for Fox...... and people want us to turn it down?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 So..thorniley (not on the scope this season)..reach.. NOT a left back in a four..and two lads playing on their unfavoured side.. and lose our only specialist defender to a division 3 team for what?..£500.000?...£700.000? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If they're offering a decent over the top wedge for him, say £1.5 - 2m, FFP dictates that we'd be mad to keep him. If Palmer is fit again soon, remember that Fox wasn't even first choice left back anyway. He's a steady player who doesn't deserve some of the criticism he gets but being the only "recognised" left back at the club doesn't make him the best one. But if Sunderland are offering next to nothing then we'd be better off keeping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: If we had the option to replace him I would probably be okay with letting him go. However we don’t have that option so would keep him for now. Let him go in January, can Sunderland wait though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Fox is a competent left-back. Anyone claiming he’s the second coming of Roberto Carlos or a pub league player is just engaging is hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If we get a fee and can replace him with a free agent who is better or the same then we should do it. If we can get a fee and replace him in house then we should do it. If not I'm happy to continue with him. I don't rate him and I've seen him have some poor games but I'll fully support him. He seems to be improving now he doesn't have to be an attacking threat. Put a quick winger in front of him and let him defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Palmer and Odubajo and if disaster strikes then Reach can all play there Cash in the chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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