Inspector Lestrade Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Wouldn't reaching the playoffs three times be more successful than reaching them twice? Or maybe we're actually more successful than Tottenham because we've never lost a Champions League final? We sacked CC coz he failed twice so we want to take on a manager who has failed three times where is the logicin that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Rowett has done a good job at every club except Stoke, whilst Neil took Norwich up and is doing well with what he has at Preston. I reckon both found do a good job here. Cook is more of a gamble, but he seems to be a manager on the up and knows how to build a team. For me, leaving a caretaker manager in charge is the worst of all the options available to us. I think you've got to say where Stoke currently are, he probably did a better job than people think. Weren't they 9th when he got the sack? They would love to be 9th now Edited August 25, 2019 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: 3 wins 2 defeats, I wouldn’t be lapping this up tbh. Fairly average. Quite amazing it’s our best start in so long Who is lapping it up? Just some cold hard facts to interrupt the bed wetting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Mycroft said: We sacked CC coz he failed twice so we want to take on a manager who has failed three times where is the logicin that? I thought we sacked Carvalhal because he had us spiralling towards the relegation zone in his third season. If his failure to win the playoffs was the only reason, surely we'd have sacked him after the Huddersfield game? If you look at it the other way, Rowett successfully reached the playoffs more times than Carvalhal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Owls2k said: Are we being a bit negative? Was the start easy and we should have had more points? I think we're being negative. We still have problems, but we're building a new team and still getting results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Owls2k said: Are we being a bit negative? Was the start easy and we should have had more points? Owlstalk negative after we lose away from home to an inform side are you mad ? Haven't you worked out yet that unless we end the season Played 46 Won 46 then thats a disaster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I thought we sacked Carvalhal because he had us spiralling towards the relegation zone in his third season. If his failure to win the playoffs was the only reason, surely we'd have sacked him after the Huddersfield game? If you look at it the other way, Rowett successfully reached the playoffs more times than Carvalhal. Why not get a manager who has negotiated the play offs? Surely that's the logical next step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mycroft said: Why not get a manager who has negotiated the play offs? Surely that's the logical next step Having done it once is no guarantee that they'll do it again. Real life just isn't that neat and tidy, I'm afraid. Karanka took Middlesbrough up but couldn't repeat the feat with Forest, for example. Chansiri just needs to employ the manager he feels will give us the best chance of achieving success in the future, whoever that may be, and back them with a proper coaching team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mus Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Owls2k said: Are we being a bit negative? Was the start easy and we should have had more points? Agreed it is a great start for us but it's easy to see that if we can't build on it soon then we are going nowhere. A lot of things need sorting, manager being first thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Wouldn't reaching the playoffs three times be more successful than reaching them twice? Or maybe we're actually more successful than Tottenham because we've never lost a Champions League final? Agree we won't be making the playoffs if we continue as we are imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 We'd be unlucky, because we'd have over 80 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beany71 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 How can you compare starts to the season. We play different teams for instance our first five could have been Leeds Fulham Swansea forest west brom. Also we have a different squad, manager etc. All you can do is rate the performance, and tactics you see. The points gained is irrelevant after 5 games as we have to play 46 games, some a lot harder than others. We may have played the bottom 5 or top 5 who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 24/08/2019 at 22:34, Theboylangers said: We could have won 2, drawn 2 and lost only 1 and we'd have 1 less point than we do now but on paper it doesn't look as bad as the 2 defeats. We're better off winning lots and losing lots than drawing any. Exactly. As Paul Sturrock once said, “draws kill you”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The comments on LB are a joke. No team is so far in front of the others that they are going to win every game. Draws are no good for play off place. We have to be winning not drawing games. LB need to judged over a season not 5 games. But the 5 games we seen have been positive. Without Westwood error at Millwall and 2 penalties at pne. A place that is very difficult to win at. We would be unbeaten. But what gets me the most is how do the LB out brigade justify that a new manager would have got better performance from the team. We have 6 new players who need time to settle. But ate obviously what we needed just not gelled as a team. Another new manager with new ideas is the last thing we want when its still work in progress with 9 points from 15 only millwall and pne away with individual errors to blame for the losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Lets face so many people made their minds up before a ball been kicked. Read so many times. I knew we not going to score enough. Bullen not good enough. Yet no manager is anything like the man DC wants. Let's be sensible. If we still in with a shout at xmax then weigh up what the candidates could bring to the table. If they are able to make improvements then change. Lets give things a little bit of time first before shaking things up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 In fact I got an amazing idea. Lets leave the manager to manage it his best. The players let them play. Lets us fans do what we do best. Support the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Owls2k said: Who is lapping it up? Just some cold hard facts to interrupt the bed wetting. It’s not bed wetting, it’s just a bit of realism from the fans based on what we’re seeing on the pitch. I don’t see us being dragged into a relegation fight but we don’t look like a top 6 side either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: In fact I got an amazing idea. Lets leave the manager to manage it his best. The players let them play. Lets us fans do what we do best. Support the team Is that what we should have carried on doing when Jos was manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 10 hours ago, nilsson said: It’s not bed wetting, it’s just a bit of realism from the fans based on what we’re seeing on the pitch. I don’t see us being dragged into a relegation fight but we don’t look like a top 6 side either The critique you give is reasonable but it is in the minority, it is mostly bed wetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 16 hours ago, nilsson said: Is that what we should have carried on doing when Jos was manager? Who said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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