Ray Von shabba Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, SiJ said: Just got back myself. Well, we were hopeless until the Big Man came on and started getting about them. Prior to then, our main tactic was aimless hoofs to Fletcher. He won a few, but there was rarely anyone around him. It was nothing, aimless football. Something we've seen too often over the years. Preston aren't a good side imo and yet they were sleepwalking into a 2-0 win until we finally showed a bit of quality. There is talent in this side, but mentally I'm not convinced. Too often they are happy to let games pass them by; waiting for something to happen rather than trying to force something to happen. With that mindset, they will lose more away from home than they win. You cant turn up for a last hurrah with 10 minutes to go and expect to pick up points. Ratings Westwood 6 - had little to do outside of picking the ball out of the net Moses - minus 2 - woeful Lees 4 - bullied by the PNE striker Borner 6 - solid Fox 6 - solid Hutch 5.5 - didn't really impose himself Bannan 5 - too much Barry Alonso today Lee 5 - barely involved Harris 6 - ok, but seemed to lose sight of the ball a fair bit Fletcher 6.5 - good header and worked hard, but Ronaldo would find it hard work with that service Murphy 5.5 - ok, but pretty ineffective Subs Nuhiu 8 - our best player by a mile Reach 7 - decent cameo and a great cross for the goal Nando 6 - had a few moments Very fair breakdown and comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, 33 said: Agree entirely but Owlstalk's Petals have said we can't mention being bullied or neshing tackles. . That tackle reach neshed on the halfway line though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The sad reality is we are starting to get worse by the game. ..need a manager ASAP - my concern is that our chairman is just hoping if he ignores the issue it will just go away. Which of course it won’t - time now just being wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simaniac Owl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RichieB said: You should have gone when Megson was in charge, a nice 2-0 victory for us then HE is needed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Whilst i think Lees and Borner are decent as a pair, I’d swap Lees for that cooper from Millwall. Exactly the sort of player we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyonedavidhirst Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, SiJ said: Just got back myself. Well, we were hopeless until the Big Man came on and started getting about them. Prior to then, our main tactic was aimless hoofs to Fletcher. He won a few, but there was rarely anyone around him. It was nothing, aimless football. Something we've seen too often over the years. Preston aren't a good side imo and yet they were sleepwalking into a 2-0 win until we finally showed a bit of quality. There is talent in this side, but mentally I'm not convinced. Too often they are happy to let games pass them by; waiting for something to happen rather than trying to force something to happen. With that mindset, they will lose more away from home than they win. You cant turn up for a last hurrah with 10 minutes to go and expect to pick up points. Ratings Westwood 6 - had little to do outside of picking the ball out of the net Moses - minus 2 - woeful Lees 4 - bullied by the PNE striker Borner 6 - solid Fox 6 - solid Hutch 5.5 - didn't really impose himself Bannan 5 - too much Barry Alonso today Lee 5 - barely involved Harris 6 - ok, but seemed to lose sight of the ball a fair bit Fletcher 6.5 - good header and worked hard, but Ronaldo would find it hard work with that service Murphy 5.5 - ok, but pretty ineffective Subs Nuhiu 8 - our best player by a mile Reach 7 - decent cameo and a great cross for the goal Nando 6 - had a few moments Cant really disagree with this. I thought Borner was our best player today taken on the 90 minutes, but Nuihu was excellent. I’d also repeat what I’ve mentioned before in that Nuihu and Fessi often seem more up for it when they are both on the pitch together and there’s a 3rd forward player (think Hooper, Joao in the past). Once again our first half tactics seem too defensive, we seem to start not wanting to concede. I'm a big Kieran Lee fan, but I’m not yet convinced he’s the player he was. Luongo has to get a start soon for me, plus I always worry when we have both Bannon and Hutch in midfield together, they both drop alongside the CHs at times and we rarely have an outball. i genuinely believe we aren’t far off if we can get the tactics right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve Down South said: Never thought I’d say this but with Palmer and Fox as full backs I think defence is looking ok. Biggest worries for me are: a) midfield 3 offer little creativity and no real physical presence, unless you count some of Hutch’s rash challenges (those players fell short in 2016 and haven’t improved since). I know all 3 are well loved but don’t think they are the way forward as a unit. b) lack of goal threat from front 3 - extra pace out wide has been refreshing but Fletcher gets very little support. Fully agree. My main concern is the midfield which, as you say, has not been changed for 3 years. Lee and BB do not have enough physical presence to combat a lot of the opposition's midfield in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Defensively apart from Odubajo we did well. Lees wasn’t bullied, won his fair share, it’ impossible to win them all. How many saves did Westwood actually have to make? Tactically they played 4 in a diamond in midfield and this allowed them to control the game. We did nothing in midfield where all 3 looked very limited. Bannan and Lee can play but are too weak, Hutch doesn’t contribute enough. Like to see the times he touched the ball compared to Pearson. We desperately need to give Luongo a game in midfield to see if he can improve us. FF didn’t look interested until Nuhiu came on. Their gamesmanship, cheating is outrageous but we have experienced players who continually fall for it. Giving away ridiculous fouls when all they need to do is stay on their feet. The referee wasn’t great especially his timekeeping. Second half Odubajo was down at least 2 mins, 5 subs and he held his arm up to say he had stopped his watch at least 10 times but only came up with 5 minutes added time. How many times did their players go down, stop the game and forcing the ref to go to look at them. . At least 6 second half. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, SiJ said: Just got back myself. Well, we were hopeless until the Big Man came on and started getting about them. Prior to then, our main tactic was aimless hoofs to Fletcher. He won a few, but there was rarely anyone around him. It was nothing, aimless football. Something we've seen too often over the years. Preston aren't a good side imo and yet they were sleepwalking into a 2-0 win until we finally showed a bit of quality. There is talent in this side, but mentally I'm not convinced. Too often they are happy to let games pass them by; waiting for something to happen rather than trying to force something to happen. With that mindset, they will lose more away from home than they win. You cant turn up for a last hurrah with 10 minutes to go and expect to pick up points. Ratings Westwood 6 - had little to do outside of picking the ball out of the net Moses - minus 2 - woeful Lees 4 - bullied by the PNE striker Borner 6 - solid Fox 6 - solid Hutch 5.5 - didn't really impose himself Bannan 5 - too much Barry Alonso today Lee 5 - barely involved Harris 6 - ok, but seemed to lose sight of the ball a fair bit Fletcher 6.5 - good header and worked hard, but Ronaldo would find it hard work with that service Murphy 5.5 - ok, but pretty ineffective Subs Nuhiu 8 - our best player by a mile Reach 7 - decent cameo and a great cross for the goal Nando 6 - had a few moments Thought Murphy was lazy today but agree with sentiments. Oh by the way you aren't allowed to say Lees gets bullied too easily or you upset the Owlstalk Petals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, 33 said: Oh by the way you aren't allowed to say Lees gets bullied too easily or you upset the Owlstalk Petals What have I done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I was going to complain about the game, but having endured the third world conditions on the 18:42 train from Manchester-Sheffield it became one of those rare awaydays when the awful performance actually wasn't the worst thing about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 It was a nothing game until the penalty. Both teams were dire, Preston were buoyed by the pen and we struggled from then. Not the end of the world at all, frustrating how we couldn't find our way back in until the last 15 minutes where we were pretty unlucky not to score again, at that point we were far more threatening than PNE were for the whole match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, 33 said: Thought Murphy was lazy today but agree with sentiments. Oh by the way you aren't allowed to say Lees gets bullied too easily or you upset the Owlstalk Petals We had the haterzs, now we've got the petals. People can have different opinions without being categorized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, 33 said: Thought Murphy was lazy today but agree with sentiments. Seems a bit selfish does Murphy so far, good player but needs to put it in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Murphy looks a decent player but as a Newcastle fan I’d be concerned at spending £12m on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Not sure what it says when one of the highlights was the two instances where Harris completely lost the ball and span around confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, vulva said: Absolute tripe. If Fox has done what Odabajo had done today, he’d be hounded out of the City. Big lump upfront bullied us and it happens regular. Said last week Borner and Lee’s weren’t big enough and I also said many on here were getting carried away after beating a Barnsley side that will finish bottom. And finally, appoint a fcvkubg manager. I agree with what you say, for 75 min today we were poor. Westwood knocking a long ball to Fletcher who despite being out numbered worked hard all match. Their first penalty was a little dubious, maybe, but then I am bias. Yet at the end we could have snatched an equaliser. Sorry, Bullen is way out of his depth. PS Thanks Jamie Vardy . WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Odubajo was terrible and needs dropping But being bullied? No we weren’t. They worked hard and pressed us and we had no idea on how to break them open today until Nuhui came on We don’t look like we have a plan B - and I think that’s why Bully isn’t the man for job We didnt break poo open . Pne let up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Odubajo was terrible and needs dropping But being bullied? No we weren’t. They worked hard and pressed us and we had no idea on how to break them open today until Nuhui came on We don’t look like we have a plan B - and I think that’s why Bully isn’t the man for job We had a plan B - 442. Then a plan C - 343. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfast owl lad Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, LittleG said: We had the haterzs, now we've got the petals. People can have different opinions without being categorized. I hear ya wee man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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