Essix Blue Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Owls2k said: Lee Bullen has got a better points return in the first 5 games than all the 'proper managers' we've had since 2012/13 Well that’s the discussion ended then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hoots Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Familiarity breeds contempt. Bullen, fine fella that he is, is just too close to the team. It’s hard to be a detached leader when the troops are all your pals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) I hate saying this because I flippinghate the pigs but Wilders interview after their game today was spot on. Bloke giving the interview goes on about players giving everything and Wilder responded with something along the lines of so what, that’s the least he expects. Exactly how I feel, our players should give 110% every game. Shouldn’t be anything special just because they do, that’s how it should be. We need more that effort, to be honest though we didn’t put anywhere near the required effort in today. Edited August 24, 2019 by WalthamOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandrewchaz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I don't know if he's the right man but a Manager needs to have decent support staff. Bullen is currently missing the support structure, with whom he could bounce ideas off/invite critical challenge. This might have changed one or two results in our favour. One thing for certain DC needs to make a decision as to who is our manager and we can build from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I wanted Bullen to get the job. Still don’t mind if he does. I more just want the situation sorted. But I don’t agree with with his assessment of today, if that’s the standard he’s happy with then I’m not. Same with Millwall and same with Luton. We need to stop going into a game and reacting when something goes wrong or isn’t working. We need to make sure we are starting games properly. That’s become my biggest worry now. As for people saying their are no options. Yes there are. Plenty. I personally would just be happy with a manager with a promotion from the Championship to the Premier League. Someone whose been there done it. Alex Neil at Preston has done that with Norwich, also proves we are a big fish in this pond taking another teams manager. Also Mick McCarthy, possibly a tough one a he’s managing Ireland but I don’t see it as being impossible to prise him away, 2 Promotions, overachiever at Ipswich and wasn’t till he left you realise how well he was actually doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, trotter said: It’s all very well blaming Bully but some of the players need to look at themselves. Moses, Bannan, Murphy, FF all very poor today. When that many players are off, it’s probably the tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleowl Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Owls2k said: Lee Bullen has got a better points return in the first 5 games than all the 'proper managers' we've had since 2012/13 Convinced me give him a 10 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 hours ago, kingsidney said: When that many players are off, it’s probably the tactics. I disagree. It’s not the tactics that gave away 2 daft penalties. It’s not tactics when our midfield players can’t execute simple passes. Bannan’s passing in particular was poor yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Tactics have bannan and hutch sat on the CBs toes again all match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The problem with a supply teacher is that it only works for so long, needs certainty and a long term vision to buy into. Going game to game breeds uncertainty and a drop in motivation, unconsciously rather than on purpose which is why we've seen a steady decline in performances, masked by a positive result v Luton (against a promoted team in poorer form) A decision needs to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 To be fair this sort of performance has happened for the last 20 years, regardless of who's been in charge. We gave the game away. Bully might not be the man but these players could let any manager down. We've too many inconsistent players like fox and reach just to name two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 As Manager you cannot be the players' friend. I wondered if a similar situation occured at Man Utd last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Bullen has done the best he can.This is the hardest division to get out of ,He is not the manager we need ,So my question is to chansiri ,Do you intend getting us up or not ? 3 times Bullen has stepped in and eventually found out not up to it ,So when Chansiri do you set a Manager on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I though the comment about Sam Allardyce in another thread was interesting. He has certainly been under the radar so far but has an excellent record as a manager with a series of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Rogers said: Are the same people who are in the Bullen camp, the same people who were in the Jos camp? Its obvious we we have a set of fans that would rather waste season after season dithering over things and no being able to see when there’s a problem OK solve the problem, which manager would have to get us promotion this season? Edited August 25, 2019 by Mycroft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Sam Allardyce might just fancy it, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, Mycroft said: OK solve the problem, which manager would have to get us promotion this season? Obviously without interviewing anyone personally, knowing who’s actually interested, or knowing the salary budget, it’s a difficult question to answer. I picked out Hughton from the second Bruce was being mentioned by Newcastle. But it looks like he’s not interested. If Leeds went out and got Bielsa, I don’t know why won’t we can’t expand beyond the 5 British managers out of work that keep being mentioned. Having said that I’d still rather have Rowett than Bullen. Definitely Big Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtheowl Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Owls Loyal said: Sam Allardyce might just fancy it, you never know. More likely to fancy another Kebab, last person we want at the club. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Rogers said: Obviously without interviewing anyone personally, knowing who’s actually interested, or knowing the salary budget, it’s a difficult question to answer. I picked out Hughton from the second Bruce was being mentioned by Newcastle. But it looks like he’s not interested. If Leeds went out and got Bielsa, I don’t know why won’t we can’t expand beyond the 5 British managers out of work that keep being mentioned. Having said that I’d still rather have Rowett than Bullen. Definitely Big Sam Rowett failed three times in the playoffs, CC failed twice is it a good idea to get someone who has failed more times than the most vilified manger we have ever had on social media? Big sam might be a decent shout not sure of his play off record, image he would be very expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Mycroft said: OK solve the problem, which manager would have to get us promotion this season? Don't want to sound like a broken record, but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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