Dick_Turpin Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mycroft said: SAG are covering their backs any incident it allows them to wash their hands of it. They are not dealing with the issues just preempting their get out excuse. If an organisation in charge of ensuring crowd safety is given a report from the police that says part of the ground is unsafe it takes a very, brave organisation - which ultimately means brave people - to go against it. Given the report that was submitted it's entirely predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 hours ago, S36 OWL said: SAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, shandypants said: I disagree. The SAG is necessary; it’s just it’s the draconian nature of its policies, rulings and decisions that is the problem. The decisions coming out of this group could relate to the makeup of its membership - is it too political; is it informed enough; is it truly independent? If the SAG is disbanded then it’ll probably pop up again with another name, the same members and a strong agenda against SWFC and SUFC but if the membership is changed for being too draconian then those new members will have to demonstrate that their decisions are more measured and inclusive for all parties. Are there any examples of a SAG agenda against SUFC? I thought one of our biggest gripes was how fans enter & exit their place, yet no prohibition notices are issued to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie snerklebox Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Since DC bought SWFC, his agenda for the stadium has not really been made clear. Either way, this latest situation (especially if the appeal is upheld), will force his hand with regard to the Lepp and North access. The quickest fix I feel is to remove the former gym/ now club shop and get some decent access to the rear of the North from that side, and utilise a plot of land across from the ground to build a superstore that actually belongs in the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, The only way is S6 said: Are there any examples of a SAG agenda against SUFC? I thought one of our biggest gripes was how fans enter & exit their place, yet no prohibition notices are issued to them. 56 minutes ago, A12owl said: There didn't seem to be any noticeable segregation of Palace fans on Sunday. From memory the away and home turnstiles are very close together, in fact the away ones are flanked by home ones aren't they? The walk away from the ground is grim with fans waiting at the corner of the ring road. Ingress and egress are impossible without fans coming together. I don't think there is space on the concourse to hold fans back and there is no pedestrian area directly outside other than a pavement. If we are subject to the measures imposed I cannot see any reason why united shouldnt be as well. Surely the risk of trouble is identical at both grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Interesting that the hotbed of disorder - Millwall - saw our supporters and their supporters walking in and out of the ground together without any bother at all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Bad enough for these type of unnecessary restrictions for local derbies but Luton on a Tuesday night!?!??! Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 20 hours ago, S36 OWL said: SAG beardedwankers in sandals, who drive 2vc's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristmace Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, stevie snerklebox said: The quickest fix I feel is to remove the former gym/ now club shop and get some decent access to the rear of the North from that side, and utilise a plot of land across from the ground to build a superstore that actually belongs in the 21st century. This is definitely the best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 hours ago, rickygoo said: If an organisation in charge of ensuring crowd safety is given a report from the police that says part of the ground is unsafe it takes a very, brave organisation - which ultimately means brave people - to go against it. Given the report that was submitted it's entirely predictable. I know I know, but for FFS just getting my frustration out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, stevie snerklebox said: Since DC bought SWFC, his agenda for the stadium has not really been made clear. Either way, this latest situation (especially if the appeal is upheld), will force his hand with regard to the Lepp and North access. The quickest fix I feel is to remove the former gym/ now club shop and get some decent access to the rear of the North from that side, and utilise a plot of land across from the ground to build a superstore that actually belongs in the 21st century. Unfortunately the plot of land opposite the ground already has planning permission for retail/food outlets with construction due to start any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 23 hours ago, lanzaroteowl said: It's about time the Club looked into sueing these half wits. Take them to court to justify their arguments, without bias against us. Show the court precedents from other grounds around the country. Make them pay for their blatant discrimination against us. It's beyond a joke now. Good idea. Would love to see them explain why it is safe for blades to share a stand with away fans at lane and their home fans can then form a pincer movement from the other to stands to complete the encirclement.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Anyone who still believes this is not a vendetta by SY Plod against wednesday to pass the blame is living in cloud cuckoo land. Its funny this has come about as one of their own (Duckenfield ) is about to stand trial again charged eith the deaths of 95 supporters. SYP are a disgrace and currupt to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, mogbad said: Unfortunately the plot of land opposite the ground already has planning permission for retail/food outlets with construction due to start any time. Nowt to stop the club taking one of the new units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sham67 said: Nowt to stop the club taking one of the new units. Can't we get in & out of the cantilever through your garden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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