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36 minutes ago, IWEDFM said:

Frustrating that he doesn't even make the 18. It says alot when we tried to offload Rhodes during the summer yet he gets on the bench ahead of him

 

Clearly something isn't quite right as Carlos, Jos, Bruce and now Bullen have all opted against picking him

 

Maybe it's down to his attitude or application in training but I find it strange as he comes across really well in interviews and seems desperate to play. He wouldn't have gone on loan to Derby if that wasn't the case

 

We're not blessed with goals so it's hard to understand why he's left in the cold. He was prolific for Barnsley and even at Derby he got a few before his injury

 

We could really do with him as we're lacking in the goals department now Joao has been sold

 

I’m not sure anyone will believe me

but I live in Barnsley and one of the coaches at my gym has very close ties to the club 

I asked him about Winnal recently and he told me he is terrible for the dressing room, said most of the players couldn’t wait to see the back of him and the reason he won’t be playing is because he has a tendency to sulk very often when he doesn’t get his own way, said he was a terrible character in the dressing room and wasn’t surprised we sent him out on loan, told me his attitude will hinder his career as he has delusions of grandeur, I said we should give him a chance but he replied that he isn’t a great team player and only thinks about himself 

like I said no one will believe me but that’s what I have to offer 

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Just now, Dexter Morgan said:

 

I’m not sure anyone will believe me

but I live in Barnsley and one of the coaches at my gym has very close ties to the club 

I asked him about Winnal recently and he told me he is terrible for the dressing room, said most of the players couldn’t wait to see the back of him and the reason he won’t be playing is because he has a tendency to sulk very often when he doesn’t get his own way, said he was a terrible character in the dressing room and wasn’t surprised we sent him out on loan, told me his attitude will hinder his career as he has delusions of grandeur, I said we should give him a chance but he replied that he isn’t a great team player and only thinks about himself 

like I said no one will believe me but that’s what I have to offer 

 

No reason not to believe you mate

 

That would add up after the whole Forestieri episode

 

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8 minutes ago, Dexter Morgan said:

 

I’m not sure anyone will believe me

but I live in Barnsley and one of the coaches at my gym has very close ties to the club 

I asked him about Winnal recently and he told me he is terrible for the dressing room, said most of the players couldn’t wait to see the back of him and the reason he won’t be playing is because he has a tendency to sulk very often when he doesn’t get his own way, said he was a terrible character in the dressing room and wasn’t surprised we sent him out on loan, told me his attitude will hinder his career as he has delusions of grandeur, I said we should give him a chance but he replied that he isn’t a great team player and only thinks about himself 

like I said no one will believe me but that’s what I have to offer 

 

Understandable comments but he didn't seem to have these problems at Barnsley or on loan at Derby.

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I know someone who played with him at at Scunny and said he was a good lad but the bit of success he's had since then may have gone to his head. There's obviously something wrong as his record shows he can score goals at this level but none of our managers pick him.

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14 minutes ago, Dexter Morgan said:

 

I’m not sure anyone will believe me

but I live in Barnsley and one of the coaches at my gym has very close ties to the club 

I asked him about Winnal recently and he told me he is terrible for the dressing room, said most of the players couldn’t wait to see the back of him and the reason he won’t be playing is because he has a tendency to sulk very often when he doesn’t get his own way, said he was a terrible character in the dressing room and wasn’t surprised we sent him out on loan, told me his attitude will hinder his career as he has delusions of grandeur, I said we should give him a chance but he replied that he isn’t a great team player and only thinks about himself 

like I said no one will believe me but that’s what I have to offer 

 

Dexter Morgan lives in Barnsley!? Now I know your fibbing cos I’ve seen the show and we all know he lives in Miami :duntmatter:

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1 hour ago, IWEDFM said:

Clearly something isn't quite right as Carlos, Jos, Bruce and now Bullen have all opted against picking him

 

Yet, did well at Derby before getting injured. 

 

Sorry, just don't buy it. Perhaps he's not the same since his injury, but in terms of Rhodes getting a nod ahead of him, maybe Rhodes being valued at several million pounds more has something to do with that...

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24 minutes ago, toppOwl said:

 

Understandable comments but he didn't seem to have these problems at Barnsley or on loan at Derby.

 

Yes he did, Barnsley we’re down to only two senior forwards, Winnal was scoring goals but he wanted to have his own way with everything, suggested being made captain and thought the team should be built around him 

No idea about Derby though 

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2 minutes ago, Dexter Morgan said:

 

Yes he did, Barnsley we’re down to only two senior forwards, Winnal was scoring goals but he wanted to have his own way with everything, suggested being made captain and thought the team should be built around him 

No idea about Derby though 

 

Like I said mate I'm not doubting you, just curious, he's not been regularly picked for us with 4 different managers so summats not reyt.

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1 hour ago, IWEDFM said:

Frustrating that he doesn't even make the 18. It says alot when we tried to offload Rhodes during the summer yet he gets on the bench ahead of him

 

Clearly something isn't quite right as Carlos, Jos, Bruce and now Bullen have all opted against picking him

 

Maybe it's down to his attitude or application in training but I find it strange as he comes across really well in interviews and seems desperate to play. He wouldn't have gone on loan to Derby if that wasn't the case

 

We're not blessed with goals so it's hard to understand why he's left in the cold. He was prolific for Barnsley and even at Derby he got a few before his injury

 

We could really do with him as we're lacking in the goals department now Joao has been sold

None of the other managers rated him, for a reason He’s not very good

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21 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

None of the other managers rated him, for a reason He’s not very good

But his record suggests otherwise Guru. Almost a goal every 2 games at Scunny and Barnsley and 1 in 3 at Derby where he was mainly coming on as a sub, yet he's hardly been given a chance with us. Apart from the spat with FF it's hard to see what the problem could be.

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When he scored that goal against Barnsley, he was generally regarded as being one of our best players that day, yet  he was dropped the next match for Fletcher who then scored 2 against toytown. When he first came I thought he looked promising when he played and always seemed to put himself about.

I hope he is on the bench this coming Tuesday.

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4 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

Yes, a million times yes

 

Remember playing Blackburn at home towards end of last season.

 

winnall started and was completely ineffectual. Nuhiu came on - scored - and effected the game to the extent we scored 3 of our 4 goals with him on the pitch.

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