lawsom34 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, andypandy said: Osnatraz.........hated it.......but a good move for Joost, game time, hopefully build confidence, and either return a better player or he will put himself in the shop window to move on ! Spent over six years there top place, watched a lot of VFL's games with quite a few other Brits and we made some good friends over there. Skip to 2.20 in this, that's like it every home game and can get a tad lively. Bremen bruken pub was always good before and after a match, especially when someone brought them a CD with this on to play as they wanted British football songs, luckily they all saw the funny side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mycroft said: No point in comparing anything if your going to go down that road nothing is ever in the same context. Your just attempting to close the debate down with a very clumsy tactic. I’m talking to someone I agree with not someone I dont agree with. So I wasn’t really debating with someone else. Weird tactic. Edited August 14, 2019 by 1993swfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: Ridiculous people blindly support Carlos no matter what he did. Just because he finished 4th and 6th he’s deemed the “best manager in the last 20”, their is no context in that because none had the financial backing of Carvalhal! Steve Bruce did more off the field in 6 months than Carvalhal did in 3 years. Bruce took us from 17th to 12th and left us high and dry and without a manager.. Carlos took his from 13th to Wembley and 90 minutes from the Premier League, then was a penalty miss away from taking us back there. In terms of most fun I've had watching between Carlos and Bruce, Carlos wins hands down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Bruce took us from 17th to 12th and left us high and dry and without a manager.. Carlos took his from 13th to Wembley and 90 minutes from the Premier League, then was a penalty miss away from taking us back there. In terms of most fun I've had watching between Carlos and Bruce, Carlos wins hands down. Can you not read? I said off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batemoor owls Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Owly Mowly said: Wonder if a team coming from 3rd tier of German league be able to cover 100% - hope so They are a good team on the up,they did well last season,even if it’s Liga 3 but they have made quite a few good signings so far and look to mean business, so a really good move all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 At Championship level he’s absolutely awful. A very expensive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It's a bit harsh to say he was rubbish, maybe he could have grown into Championship football. Some players need time to adapt when they move here, given several months he might have found his feet. He came here, played a few games and wasn't up to it, his confidence was shot then he got injured. He never really had a chance. If there is a fault it's with the person who signed him, either he was rubbish and shouldn't have been signed or he was a potentially good player who was never going to get the time to find his feet because we couldn't lose points while he learned how to play here. If he can resurrect his carrer then good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, TrickyTrev said: At Championship level he’s absolutely awful. A very expensive mistake. It’s crazy someone authorised the signing of someone that had played as little games as Van Aken. In 16/17 (year before he joined us) he only managed 26 games and 15/16 only played 20 times. He’d managed 46 games in 2 years prior to signing him, madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: Can you not read? I said off the field. Who cares about off the field. It's what happens on it that counts. Off the field though, Bruce mugged us off and left us managerless a week into pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Bruce took us from 17th to 12th and left us high and dry and without a manager.. Carlos took his from 13th to Wembley and 90 minutes from the Premier League, then was a penalty miss away from taking us back there. In terms of most fun I've had watching between Carlos and Bruce, Carlos wins hands down. Some people say the best measure of a manager is the state you were in when he left We were an absolute basket case of a team and squad when Carlos left and heading for relegation Bruce had a few good results and was starting to turn the squad around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 As good as the incomings have been the outgoings this window have at least shown that there’s some sort of awareness of our squads shortcomings. Hopefully a replacement for Joey in January & we can get rid of him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Good, makes sense. Can’t see him being anywhere near the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Birley Owl 1867 said: Who cares about off the field. It's what happens on it that counts. Off the field though, Bruce mugged us off and left us managerless a week into pre season. Well that’s what I was on about before you waffled on about something I wasn’t talking about. Yeah why should we care about FFP? Or Bruce bringing in Strudwick and a proper recruitment team. Carlos jumped ship to Swansea as soon as it got difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I actually forgot he played for us Sums his time up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batemoor owls Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, bradowl said: Vfl Osnabruck are 2nd tier not 3rd. Promoted from liga 3 as champions last season. Very good standard football. I’ve watched them a few time over last season and they played some good football,they have now signed some good player and will get better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Owl Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Good luck Joost. In the Carlos debate, there are two facts that don't seem to be able to co-exist in some people's minds. Firstly Carlos had a high degree of relative success at Hillsborough and brought a feel good factor back to the club via the playoff final etc. Secondly Carlos was in charge of the players and backroom staff in the lead up to and duration of our worst injury crisis in recent times. Both of these things are down to the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: I’m talking to someone I agree with not someone I dont agree with. So I wasn’t really debating with someone else. Weird tactic. The premise of your argument dear boy. Oh never mind I'm off to find a flat earther to debate with, get more sense out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batemoor owls Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, lawsom34 said: Spent over six years there top place, watched a lot of VFL's games with quite a few other Brits and we made some good friends over there. Skip to 2.20 in this, that's like it every home game and can get a tad lively. Bremen bruken pub was always good before and after a match, especially when someone brought them a CD with this on to play as they wanted British football songs, luckily they all saw the funny side. I lived there for 3 years and went to a few matches too, they where a good team then and what I’ve seen last season there on there way again,like you said the place was always buzzin...great times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Good. He’s awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: Well that’s what I was on about before you waffled on about something I wasn’t talking about. Yeah why should we care about FFP? Or Bruce bringing in Strudwick and a proper recruitment team. Carlos jumped ship to Swansea as soon as it got difficult. Carlos got the sack the went to Swansea. Bruce left us before the season after talking to a new team behind our backs for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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