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Reading that PDF about  SAG .. notice that of

all the images used theirs one stadium missing? 

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On 12/08/2019 at 18:58, dorian gray said:

build a bridge half way across the river for away fans.

 

What do they do at the half way point? Swim, jump?

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  1. The safety advisory group will:-

    1. Give its advice, guidance and support to those involved in the management of sports stadiums   not exactly giving support

      • To ensure that spectator safety is of the highest attainable standard as is reasonably practical not exactly ensuring the safety of fans heading out on to Penistone Road

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I wish people would stop mentioning any problems leaving via Penistone Rd.  You are playing straight in SAG/SYP's hands.  They will use this as an excuse to reduce capacity on the North and Kop.  Then when questioned will say they did it due to supporters concerns. They want us out and are playing you like fiddles.

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11 hours ago, Animis said:

https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/business/sports-grounds/SWFC Safety Cert 2018.pdf

 

The above was our 2018 certificate having been granted on 10th August 2018, which coincidently, a year on, was the day of the Barnsley match.

 

Interestingly it confirms the specific ground restrictions and actual capacity of 34,571. We seem to be restricted by the Physical condition and safety management (P&S) factor calculation in determining capacity - most of the stands are at less than factor 1.0.

 

Now see the SUFC certificate:https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/business/sports-grounds/SUFC Safety Cert 2018.pdf

 

They have no P&S restrictions, and are simply allowed to net off the first row in their west stand areas when supporters 'mix'. I assume they all spill out onto Bramhall Lane after the match, just like Leppings Lane - funny that....

 

Is this still our working capacity? (Minus the extra in the North now)

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15 hours ago, Costello 77 said:

Would the North be prepared to hang back for ten minutes to help the club out?

Genuine question...

May as well. It took longer than that to get out on Saturday 

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15 minutes ago, Sham67 said:

I wish people would stop mentioning any problems leaving via Penistone Rd.  You are playing straight in SAG/SYP's hands.  They will use this as an excuse to reduce capacity on the North and Kop.  Then when questioned will say they did it due to supporters concerns. They want us out and are playing you like fiddles.

Er, they already have further reduced the capacity of the north. It’s now season ticket holders only until further notice. 

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So presuming these restrictions are still in place, with the North Stand now being season ticket holders only, we're looking at a capacity of around 33,000. 6700/6800 empty seats. Ridiculous.

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3 minutes ago, Plonk said:

Er, they already have further reduced the capacity of the north. It’s now season ticket holders only until further notice. 

 

Yep and will reduce it further at any opportunity.

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13 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Apart from a couple of seasons on the Lepp, and 4 or 5 seasons on the South, I've sat in the North since the late sixties

 

There's always problems when the Blunts come, similar with Leeds, I remember problems at the Palace game when we got relegated, and West Ham a few seasons ago

 

For the last 15 years we've approached the ground down Leppings Lane and entered through the turnstyles on Leppings Lane without problems

 

I've lost count of the amount of away games I've been to where we've been locked in for 10 or 15 minutes after the game, every time without issue

 

So explain to me why South Yorkshire Police can't police a football fixture with 2,500 away supporters

 

Or in Luton's case, probably less than a thousand

 

I've been to Brammall Lane on numerous occassions and the trouble is always worse outside their ground

 

There's an agenda going on here

 

Absolutely spot on.

 

The trouble in March with the pig game was caused by SYP.  Blocking LL with double parked coaches, police vans etc made no sense.  Made the exit away from the ground far more congested added to the fact they failed to hold the pigs back just compounded the issue.  

 

I'd understand if they put this into place just for games against pigs and maybe Leeds, but Barnsley, Luton and QPR...come off it.

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3 hours ago, Castleford Owl said:

Is this still our working capacity? (Minus the extra in the North now)

 

I believe the recent measures and further reduction in the available North Stand seats are extra to the capacity restrictions in the August 2018 safety cert. I haven't seen how many seats are affected, but SWFC said, 'a small reduction of available seats on the day'.

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3 hours ago, Sham67 said:

 

Yep and will reduce it further at any opportunity.

 

Nail on the head mate 

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14 hours ago, Ash76 said:

 

What do they do at the half way point? Swim, jump?

free fall.

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3 hours ago, Ethel The Tree said:

Just had a look on the OS

 

https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/ticket-details-owls-v-qpr/

 

Does this mean North Stand ticket sales are back to normal for the QPR game?

No, just a generic price list - the North Stand is still 'Greyed' out.

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5 hours ago, Sham67 said:

I wish people would stop mentioning any problems leaving via Penistone Rd.  You are playing straight in SAG/SYP's hands.  They will use this as an excuse to reduce capacity on the North and Kop.  Then when questioned will say they did it due to supporters concerns. They want us out and are playing you like fiddles.

Correct

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SYP said they wished to police Sheffield football differently and use far less officers. I think they understood the matches were overstaffed.  I wonder wether they have had the assessment of the ground done in order to assist their planning. Unfortunately the bloke from MMU came up with his results. Because he doesn't understand football? Because he is a risk averse academic? They approached the club in order to sort it,who didn't turn up for the first meeting and then came up with a half hearted solution for the next meeting, with both parties not realising the end result would be what we now have. No conspiracy, no vendetta. Just unforeseen consequences? 

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Haven't read the whole thread but has the question of why wasn't this bought up with the club at the end of last season so we could have made alterations if necessary to the problem areas? The timing of this means it will be difficult to do anything with out disrupting match days even more. Which again brings up the conspiracy rumours which I'm sure are probably untrue.

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