sMacLean Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 He continues to grow and has given us a much stiffer spine to the side. Hard to see many better and can play good short and long length passes just strokes it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I’m not as convinced as everyone else. He has many many qualities, but he does have weaknesses. He doesn’t have pace, but next to Dom this will be less of an issue. Positionally he needs to learn. Look at both Assombalonga misses and see which marker he lost, and see Westwood’s reaction. First one Westwood roasted Börner. Second one he was calmer, putting both arms round him and explaining in some detail. Good stuff from KW that. He strikes me as a hugely intelligent player, who will learn quickly. He will learn from Westwood and he will learn from playing and training with Lee and from having ex CBs Monk and Bullen as his mentors. Many outstanding CBs have got around not having great pace. I firmly believe that results trump opinion, and with Julian playing we have conceded 8 in nine games, including two stupid foul penalties he had no control over. So clearly it’s working really well. If my chopper was on the chopping board, right now, I would have a defence of Iorfa Lees Börner Palmer. I think the learner needs an experienced teacher by his side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest addedtime Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Holmowl said: I’m not as convinced as everyone else. He has many many qualities, but he does have weaknesses. He doesn’t have pace, but next to Dom this will be less of an issue. Positionally he needs to learn. Look at both Assombalonga misses and see which marker he lost, and see Westwood’s reaction. First one Westwood roasted Börner. Second one he was calmer, putting both arms round him and explaining in some detail. Good stuff from KW that. He strikes me as a hugely intelligent player, who will learn quickly. He will learn from Westwood and he will learn from playing and training with Lee and from having ex CBs Monk and Bullen as his mentors. Many outstanding CBs have got around not having great pace. I firmly believe that results trump opinion, and with Julian playing we have conceded 8 in nine games, including two stupid foul penalties he had no control over. So clearly it’s working really well. If my chopper was on the chopping board, right now, I would have a defence of Iorfa Lees Börner Palmer. I think the learner needs an experienced teacher by his side. Paul McGrath springs to mind. Shot to pieces knees but a hell of a defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, addedtime said: Paul McGrath springs to mind. Shot to pieces knees but a hell of a defender. I share that with Paul McGrath. Bad knees, not the “hell of a defender” bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 What a signing he has been so far! Great business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hasn't done much wrong so far ,seems a very astute signing who imo seems a better bet than hector with the added bonus of costing us probably considerably less wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky belly Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, sMacLean said: He continues to grow and has given us a much stiffer spine to the side. Hard to see many better and can play good short and long length passes just strokes it around. He’s called ‘Boner’ - there’s a song about his genitals and now this. It’s all too much for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Only obvious weakness is pace but with iorfa alongside, together they have everything needed for this level. It's midfield and upfront where the harder questions lie imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 He's been a terrific bit of business. Just shows (along with Harris) that you don't have to spaff the money around if you do some decent scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 01/10/2019 at 04:11, sMacLean said: He continues to grow and has given us a much stiffer spine to the side. Hard to see many better and can play good short and long length passes just strokes it around. On 01/10/2019 at 17:06, Sticky belly said: He’s called ‘Boner’ - there’s a song about his genitals and now this. It’s all too much for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: He's been a terrific bit of business. Just shows (along with Harris) that you don't have to spaff the money around if you do some decent scouting. I can think of another much better and wide-ranging example of this, but I won't mention their name. While we were gloating at their misfortune, little did we know that they had quietly laid the foundations for blasting right past us and they are even making a decent fist of it in the Premier League so far (although a lack of goals may hold them back over the long haul). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 He's ok as we shopped at Aldi in Summer but QPR'S centre forward showed his weaknesses when faced with quality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikowl Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, fred mciver said: He's ok as we shopped at Aldi in Summer but QPR'S centre forward showed his weaknesses when faced with quality. Or maybe being drafted in to play a completely different position on short notice can have a negative impact on a players performance? Edited October 4, 2019 by rikowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 An absolute rock again today. The way he steps in and nicks the ball in front of the attackers is sublime. Player of the season so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 ...and now he's off the mark. There's no stopping him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Best cb in the league in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Its not just his defensive ability, its his attitude and enthusiasm that shines through, he looks such a team player. The polar opposite of that lad Murphy. The way he just shrugged off Tosspot Tomlins whack to the head. Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I am devastated about last nights injustices but the thought of Borner’s smiley chops is keeping me going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 14 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: ...and now he's off the mark. There's no stopping him now! A classy finish aswell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Great to see him back today. He's just so damn cool under pressure. There was a moment this afternoon where he was behind one of their attackers challenging for an aerial ball. The attacker jumped up to challenge for it and Börner just ducked out of the way, let the ball drop behind him and scooted around to collect it. I f*cking love him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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