scram Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Stoop said: Tottenham and Newcastle are a absolute disgrace. Happy to furlough staff whilst their players earn hundreds of thousands of pounds a week Players at clubs need to be taking cuts to look after the people who look after them on a daily basis After all this, I hope the season gets cancelled, the TV companies pull the plug and each and every one of the grotesque set of greedy b*stards gets hit hard in the pocket Be great if furloughed staff refused to go back I know it can't happen, but still Hopefully some way or other football will reboot itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, scram said: Be great if furloughed staff refused to go back I know it can't happen, but still Hopefully some way or other football will reboot itself It stinks. They are basically sat in their ivory towers whilst watching everyone else suffer, hopefully this is something the paying public won’t forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Belgian FA saying season has ended with Club Brugge to be crowned as champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 17 hours ago, rickygoo said: Nowhere near as poo as the government who had said it was OK to play. And I’m no fan of modern football. flipping hell are you a corbynista? Imagine how it would have been with him in charge The gov imo did all they could, if you order full lockdown with little scientific support, and cost the economy billions and trillions you never recover from that. Rock and hard place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said: Belgian FA saying season has ended with Club Brugge to be crowned as champions. They may end up doing that here tbh. Think it would be controversial, but at least Liverpool can argue with a fair bit of credibility that theyd be champions. Whether that opens up a can of worms elsewhere though is a very legitimate question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: They may end up doing that here tbh. Think it would be controversial, but at least Liverpool can argue with a fair bit of credibility that theyd be champions. Whether that opens up a can of worms elsewhere though is a very legitimate question. Don’t think anyone could begrudge Liverpool being given the title. There would be law suits aplenty re. relegation/ promotion/ champions’ league places I imagine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Horse Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Don’t think anyone could begrudge Liverpool being given the title. There would be law suits aplenty re. relegation/ promotion/ champions’ league places I imagine though. Thing is though they would not have won it 'properly'. Forever their acheivement will have an asterisk by it - Premier League Champions 19-20* In small print *Season not fully completed As much as i have no love for them, can the scousers really celebrate this with any joy or integrity? I'd be embarrassed and tell them they could have the trophy back and we'll do it the right way when the next season starts - however long that takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I think they are so far ahead they can legitimately have it. Small mercy is no jubilant scenes of Anfield / Souness / Lawrenson / Jimmy Corkhill etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Think the government should turn round and tell football clubs that they cant pick and choose who they furlough, if non playing staff are then playing staff should be as well love to see them survive on 80% of £2500 per month the government needs to get tough with football over this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, fudge27 said: flipping hell are you a corbynista? Imagine how it would have been with him in charge The gov imo did all they could, if you order full lockdown with little scientific support, and cost the economy billions and trillions you never recover from that. Rock and hard place Nope not a Corbyn fan - but I think Johnson is an out of his depth shyster. The two aren't mutually exclusive. "He would have been even bottom than me" is no defence to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, The Horse said: Thing is though they would not have won it 'properly'. Forever their acheivement will have an asterisk by it - Premier League Champions 19-20* In small print *Season not fully completed As much as i have no love for them, can the scousers really celebrate this with any joy or integrity? I'd be embarrassed and tell them they could have the trophy back and we'll do it the right way when the next season starts - however long that takes. This 100% if I was a Liverpool fan I would not want it. They will be baited about it forever more.As i mentioned before the song at Old Trafford the next time the scousers are there 'Premier League Champions you've never done that' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SiJ said: They may end up doing that here tbh. Think it would be controversial, but at least Liverpool can argue with a fair bit of credibility that theyd be champions. Whether that opens up a can of worms elsewhere though is a very legitimate question. A Blades fan I know claimed that they should get to play Villa so that they've both played the same number of games as those around them. That way the relegation and Champions League places are decided fairly. No other games need to be completed in order for it all to be entirely fair, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, fudge27 said: flipping hell are you a corbynista? Imagine how it would have been with him in charge The gov imo did all they could, if you order full lockdown with little scientific support, and cost the economy billions and trillions you never recover from that. Rock and hard place Damage from shutdown vs Virus will be a big dividing issue again soon. Increasingly discussed. Trump got on the record early about desire to reopen US economy. Snookers those who later criticise. Only see all leagues being void here still except Liverpool will probably get a special pass to be crowned Champions. They would still have qualified for CL if season void for them too so no advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: A Blades fan I know claimed that they should get to play Villa so that they've both played the same number of games as those around them. That way the relegation and Champions League places are decided fairly. No other games need to be completed in order for it all to be entirely fair, apparently. If the league is effectively called off with Liverpool crowned champions, and the Champions League places going to those currently occupying the spaces, he’d be absolutely correct to say everyone should finish on the same amount of games. How can something like that be decided when, you have teams with games in hand, through no fault of their own? 2 fixtures behind closed doors sorts it. If it wasn’t the pigs involved you wouldn’t feel a morale outrage about it. Would it be fairer to complete the league? Absolutely. Would it be safer in this current climate? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: If the league is effectively called off with Liverpool crowned champions, and the Champions League places going to those currently occupying the spaces, he’d be absolutely correct to say everyone should finish on the same amount of games. How can something like that be decided when, you have teams with games in hand, through no fault of their own? 2 fixtures behind closed doors sorts it. If it wasn’t the pigs involved you wouldn’t feel a morale outrage about it. Would it be fairer to complete the league? Absolutely. Would it be safer in this current climate? No. league places cant be decided based on an unfinished set of matches, no one knows what would happened in those matches, if it is cancelled it is cancelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, the third man said: league places cant be decided based on an unfinished set of matches, no one knows what would happened in those matches, if it is cancelled it is cancelled It’s all theoretical. If it’s cancelled and, they use the league standings to determine who reaches the Champions league or, who’s relegated then, you’re wrong, the teams involved simply have to all have played the same amount of games. That way, you’ve got an outcome after a set number of games. It’s then a level playing field for all. You can’t relegate Aston Villa when they have a game in hand, which if they win, keeps them up. in principle I agree with what you’re saying but, in practice, it doesn’t work, especially when you factor in the European element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: It’s all theoretical. If it’s cancelled and, they use the league standings to determine who reaches the Champions league or, who’s relegated then, you’re wrong, the teams involved simply have to all have played the same amount of games. That way, you’ve got an outcome after a set number of games. It’s then a level playing field for all. You can’t relegate Aston Villa when they have a game in hand, which if they win, keeps them up. in principle I agree with what you’re saying but, in practice, it doesn’t work, especially when you factor in the European element. What doesn't work, nothing can be decided unless the leagues are completed, if they aren't, we start the new season as if the 19 / 20 season never existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, the third man said: What doesn't work, nothing can be decided unless the leagues are completed, if they aren't, we start the new season as if the 19 / 20 season never existed And who plays in the Champions League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 At the moment, I can only see that this season should be null and void. Disappointing for the likes of Liverpool and Leeds but there are bigger fish to fry by saving lives, protecting people’s health and the national and global economy. It will be difficult to start the 20/21 season, never mind finishing the current one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 This shows why the old adage ‘the table doesn’t lie’ is untrue. Until everyone has played the same fixtures it always lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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