George Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Yeah, I know where you are coming from. Like I say, he has the skill set but if what you're saying is that he needs to apply himself more consistently then I am with you. I do think that he gets a bit heavily marked sometimes which makes him look anonymous but he is one of those players that in the good old days a coach would say 'give him a whack early on'. But if his head is in the right place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Reach was a little anonymous at Reading last week and never really got into the game. We tended to play over to Harris a lot which worked very well, but it meant Reach on the right wasn’t really involved. It will be interesting how he gets on today, with the likes of Murphy, Forestieri and Luongo waiting in the wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, debram said: Sometimes maybe but for me he has a tendency to go missing when the going gets tough, not consistent enough, he does score the odd goal and some screamers too, as you can tell he's not my favourite player but each to their own. Just because he goes missing doesn’t mean he’s doing a job Last week he kept hugging the touchline and although the ball didn’t come to him most of the time, he’s stretching defenders and opening gaps up on the attack for players like Harris to exploit He doesn’t have to be in every tackle every pass and every headed to be doing a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Is Forestieri available? Yeah, be a sub at best today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Same team to start apart from Dawson in for Westwood. Now we have quality to bring on I'd expect the starters to raise the intensity so we can bring fresh legs on after 60-70 minutes. Murphy for reach, Luongo for Lee and FF for Harris are all great changes that would give us a high energy last quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 hours ago, ozzieowl said: Really can’t get how so many people don’t put fessi in starting line up. Top player can win games for us. Except he’s been here 4 years and rarely does that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Dawson Moses Lee Borner Odubajo Hutch Lee Bannan Harris Fletch Reach Subs : Murphy Luongo Jones Rhodes Winnall Bates Fernando that would be my team , gives un unreal options from the bench , imagine it’s 1-1 with 25 to go and you bring on Murphy winnall and Fernando for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefdave Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 If Iorfa is suspended, I'd give Lorfa a run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Brando17 said: Rhodes and Fletcher up top it's Barnsley not Leed's Totally agree. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this 4-3-3 stuff. Rhodes has never had success in that role, always as a front 2 at Hudds and Blackburn. He can't play that role like Fletcher. So I see 4-3-3 away with Fletcher and wingers, and 4-4-2 at home with Rhodes and Fletch. Really hoping thats the case or doubt we get much from Rhodes once again, we'll see today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: Dawson Moses Lee Borner Odubajo Glad you're not the manager. A back three with Moses Odubajo covering left back and right back at the same time probably wouldn't work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, swfc-dan said: Totally agree. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this 4-3-3 stuff. What's not to understand? This season we're a high press, counter attacking team (watch the Murphy interview), three in the middle helps protect the back four as well as providing cover for the full backs, two banks of three means the three midfielders do the second press if the opponents get past the first press from the forwards/wide players, it's a modern dynamic formation that works very well with the right players and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, uɐıɹɐqɯıɹ⅁ said: Glad you're not the manager. A back three with Moses Odubajo covering left back and right back at the same time probably wouldn't work well. Palmer one side sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyonedavidhirst Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) I very much suspect he will go with the same formation and just put Dawson in. The bench will be interesting as to whether he loads up with attacking options. I tend to think on the bench he'll go with Jones, Bates, Luongo, Murphy, Rhodes, Nuihu and Fessi. I think with those 7 choices all positions can be covered, with just minor alterations. Plus he can easily switch to 4-4-2 if he thinks it's needed. The other point is if we aim to play 4-5-1/4-3-3 regularly I think he'll look to replace Fletch around 70 mins. Out transfer business has been good, but we are relient on Fletch staying fit. If he doed bring Fletch off then Nuihu or Rhodes will come on. Id also guess Luongo will come on for Lee, meaning only 1 more sub if there are no injuries. He could of course bring Fessi or Murphy on for Lee and put Reach inside. Longer term, I'd be shocked if Iorfa and Luongo aren't regular starters and Murphy if he performs to the levels he is capable of. And personally, I'd love to see Fessi beat the ban and find his top form. Edited August 10, 2019 by onlyonedavidhirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Beighton Owl 87 said: Same as last week apart from Dawson in for Westwood. All 4 new signings on the bench. Yep , id be shocked if it isnt this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 The bench will be interesting tho today . Four new signings will be on there ,so who misses out from last weekend ? Jones Bates Lloungo Murphy who will the other three be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, swfc-dan said: Totally agree. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this 4-3-3 stuff. Rhodes has never had success in that role, always as a front 2 at Hudds and Blackburn. He can't play that role like Fletcher. So I see 4-3-3 away with Fletcher and wingers, and 4-4-2 at home with Rhodes and Fletch. Really hoping thats the case or doubt we get much from Rhodes once again, we'll see today I really liked the 433 last week with two proper widemen. However, I can see your point entirely, and Hutch should not be necessary at home to a modest side. That said, he scored one and made one. I need a fence to sit on....nah - don’t change last weeks side. 3-1 away and 12 attempts on goal . Clearly it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, swfc-dan said: Totally agree. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this 4-3-3 stuff. Rhodes has never had success in that role, always as a front 2 at Hudds and Blackburn. He can't play that role like Fletcher. So I see 4-3-3 away with Fletcher and wingers, and 4-4-2 at home with Rhodes and Fletch. Really hoping thats the case or doubt we get much from Rhodes once again, we'll see today 4-3-3 gives you three central midfielders and the midfield battle is where a game is often won or lost. If you can control the midfield you can control the game. if you’re up against a team playing 4-4-2 you’ve got the numbers in central midfield. Let’s say we play with Hutch and Bannan in a 4-4-2 and the opposition play 4-3-3. You could tell one of your three to close down Bannan as soon as he gets on the ball. As most of our play goes through him this effectively stops us playing. Hutch sits deep so you don’t have to worry too much about him which would then leave one of your three (say your main ball player such as Mooy or Huddlestone) to just run the game. Edited August 10, 2019 by York_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, York_Owl said: 4-3-3 gives you three central midfielders and the midfield battle is where a game is often won or lost. If you can control the midfield you can control the game. if you’re up against a team playing 4-4-2 you’ve got the numbers in central midfield. Let’s say we play with Hutch and Bannan in a 4-4-2 and the opposition play 4-3-3. You could tell one of your three to close down Bannan as soon as he gets on the ball. As most of our play goes through him this effectively stops us playing. Hutch sits deep so you don’t have to worry too much about him which would then leave one of your three (say your main ball player such as Mooy or Huddlestone) to just run the game. If we play 442 at all I hope and expect it would be Bannan and Lee, with Hutch rested. Look how deep Hutch sat last week. You can’t afford that in a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, Holmowl said: If we play 442 at all I hope and expect it would be Bannan and Lee, with Hutch rested. Look how deep Hutch sat last week. You can’t afford that in a 2. You’re still 3 v 2 which is what Lampard and Gerard complained about when playing for England in a two against teams playing a three. Look at what happened when Lee and Bannan played there v Huddersfield away semi final play off leg. We had 30% possession and created nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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