Nero Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1. As a working consultant I am fully aware of what my client wants me to say before I make a report. I have to maintain professional standards but I'm not a neutral actor. 2. The probable author of the report from MMU is Prof Keith Still. He has a vast depth of knowledge on crowd safety and crowds. Fair play. He was also expert witness at the Hillborough enquiry..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sham67 said: This exactly what they're hoping for. It will give them an excuse to shut the North and Kop. I'm just glad my ST is in the South. I am. Imagine sitting with those North people, or the Kop ruffians. Edited August 9, 2019 by vulva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, Sham67 said: SYP are not fit for purpose. Haven't been since the strike. They have a long, shameful record of sheer incompetence ..They are a disgrace, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Which investigative journalist wrote that poo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaco Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Hirstys Salopettes said: Which investigative journalist wrote that poo? it's so poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Alan Billings is the man to hold to account for this.....Police and Crime commissionaire for South Yorkshire.....and it’s an electable position. Every single Wednesday fan should contact him holding him to account for what is going on and reminding him that more than half of South Yorkshire will remember this when election time comes around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Knock leppings lane stand down and rebuild with proper access ,we've done virtually nothing to resolve problems and it looks like we can't take a hint instead we will try to prove the wrong 'fat chance' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Massive overreaction by SYP not fit for purpose past history shows that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aingarth Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Absolute disgrace. SY Police have enough against them already and they are now just compounding their position as possibly the worst in the country. As others have said, the response to dreadful policing is yet again, to target our football club rather than make improvements to their policing. I have sat in the North since 1961 when the capacity was 10,000 and always enter from Leppings Lane, without a problem except during the miners strike when the police created the problem. They are now creating a H&S problem by halving the size of the entrance and exit which seems to be completely against the Taylor report. This is vindictive and completely unintelligent and seems seems to be part of a growing mood that the club should be punished on an ongoing basis unlike any other in the UK. I tend to agree that it will not cease until either we re-build Hillsborough or move to a new purpose developed site. Dejphon, I believe you have the support of every Wednesdayite to fight this with everything you have at your disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said: 1. As a working consultant I am fully aware of what my client wants me to say before I make a report. I have to maintain professional standards but I'm not a neutral actor. 2. The probable author of the report from MMU is Prof Keith Still. He has a vast depth of knowledge on crowd safety and crowds. Fair play. He was also expert witness at the Hillborough enquiry..... Or maybe Prof Keith Brown ...................director of art and digital tecnologies at MMU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, doubleo said: The timing is interesting - Duckenfields re-trial next month - just wonder if his defence will bring this up ? - deflecting blame onto the design of the Ground. Throw enough **** and some will stick. Duckenfield is not to blame......he was a very very small piece of what went in that day..,,,not just that day but at football grounds up and down the Country in the 80’s im as pissed off as anyone about this but don’t bring Duckenfield in to it, blame doesn’t need to be deflected when there is none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ian said: Duckenfield is not to blame......he was a very very small piece of what went in that day..,,,not just that day but at football grounds up and down the Country in the 80’s im as pissed off as anyone about this but don’t bring Duckenfield in to it, blame doesn’t need to be deflected when there is none Duckenfield is just the fall guy for that corrupt mess of an ‘organisation’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Here ya go fellas,this is the REAL REASON...........................................Introducing some thick dingle from dingle land........ BetterRedThanDead, Today at 10:53 AM I think the obvious reason behind all of this is that Wednesday are skint and I mean really skint.... What’s likely is they can’t afford the additional Matchday costs of accommodating extra away fans especially considering extra policing required for a local derby. This is also despite the fact they are charging silly money for tickets . As far as I am aware they remain under a soft transfer embargo so can’t spend fees on transfers as their signings have been frees or loans. So I would imagine what little money they have has all gone into funding the wages for those signings and they are having to make sacrifices elsewhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultime Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 we could give the away fans 2000 seats in the kop side of north or the south, leaving the away end for home support. Job jone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Barnsley people point at planes and smell like wet dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Can you imagine if we'd been promoted and tomorrow was our first home game back in the Premier the national press, BBC, SKY would've been all over this, Hillsborough isn't fit to host football matches, social media petitions to have the ground closed, that's why I feel it's time to move the ground is used as a stick to beat the club with and will not change for the foreseeable future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, owler66 said: Can you imagine if we'd been promoted and tomorrow was our first home game back in the Premier the national press, BBC, SKY would've been all over this, Hillsborough isn't fit to host football matches, social media petitions to have the ground closed, that's why I feel it's time to move the ground is used as a stick to beat the club with and will not change for the foreseeable future Fuckem all mate. Don't be a surrender monkey. Hillsborough forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Just noticed that Barnsley have been given an extra 500 tickets. Less than 24 hours before the game. WTF? Obviously, according to the Barnsley fans, it's our fault... Edited August 9, 2019 by Castleford Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Don't give away fans any allocation. Owls fans can then exit where they want and the North can retain it's current capacity. I don't want to stop away fans attending but if they want to reduce capacity because of this farce I'd prefer to look after our own as a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ian said: Duckenfield is not to blame......he was a very very small piece of what went in that day..,,,not just that day but at football grounds up and down the Country in the 80’s im as pissed off as anyone about this but don’t bring Duckenfield in to it, blame doesn’t need to be deflected when there is none The disaster itself was one thing but it was the aftermath where the actions of some people, including senior police officers, poliiticians and the press, was called into question. The role of the police was criticised in the 2012 independent report. Amongst other things "116 of 164 police statements were 'amended to remove or alter comments unfavourable to South Yorkshire police'" (Guardian, 12 Sept 2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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