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30 minutes ago, OhForAnotherShez said:

 

The report mentions if people were to be held back in areas e.g. concourse with 2 people/square meter, there would be insufficient safe room.

 

however aren't all dingles fat?

Simple really, you just restrict the number of people allowed in the away end to that number that can be held back in the available space according to the report’s calculations, 

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Why don't we march down Leppings Lane arm in arm with the Barnsley fans show them we get along 

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Wow. 

 

Such a flawed report it’s hard to know where to start. Recommends sending everyone on the north one way but doesn’t even mention the impact this will have at the other end. The fact the SAG have used this to implement changes is frankly shocking. 

 

The club need to come back at this hard. That report won’t stand up in any court. There is going to be a lot of disappointed/ pissed off fans tomorrow and it’s absurd that it’s being needlessly inflicted as a result of this rot. 

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Needs to be so much more opposition to this 

 

Really not sure enough people see SYPD for the incompetent sham of an organisation they really are 

 

Questions need to be asked 

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Just now, Royal_D said:

Needs to be so much more opposition to this 

 

Really not sure enough people see SYPD for the incompetent sham of an organisation they really are 

 

Questions need to be asked 

Problem has been illustrated today. You only need to mention 1989, SYP trot out the line “public safety is our top priority” and it’s very hard to combat. I agree that we need get on the front foot though. Accept that more can be done, but it’s time some common sense was injected into the discussion. 

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4 minutes ago, owls maniac said:

Problem has been illustrated today. You only need to mention 1989, SYP trot out the line “public safety is our top priority” and it’s very hard to combat. I agree that we need get on the front foot though. Accept that more can be done, but it’s time some common sense was injected into the discussion. 

 

We need to be very careful because any mass retaliation by us will be used against the club by SYPD, the issue for me isn’t really the SAG there just puppets and Sheffield City Council are nowt more than a bunch of jokers  , people need to be aware that SYPD have a historical deep running vendetta against Sheffield Wednesday FC 

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It's reported in the Daily Mail (I know) that the club received an initial report on 26th June but did not attend and initial safety meeting on this issue on 17th July. SWFCs response at a meeting a week later was then deemed inadequate.

 

Anyone know if this is true (not attending the 17th July meeting)?

 

 

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SYP / SAG 

 

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3 minutes ago, 4evaowl said:

It's reported in the Daily Mail (I know) that the club received an initial report on 26th June but did not attend and initial safety meeting on this issue on 17th July. SWFCs response at a meeting a week later was then deemed inadequate.

 

Anyone know if this is true (not attending the 17th July meeting)?

 

 

Sounds like something has been leaked to the DM from the SAG. Which in itself is inappropriate. 

 

If true then the club need to up their game. Stunts like that only strengthen SYP’s case that we aren’t taking it seriously. 

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The very people who caused the disaster are determined to make the stadium unusable . There is no point fighting this whatever we do they will find a problem so upsticks and move to a new stadium progress our club and take business away from the council, syp and sag leave them with the pigs and the lane 

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Reading the report it only covers Leppings Lane and ignores every other part of the ground, Seems quite clear that an analysis of Penistone Rd is likely to show issues around egress rates and holding areas already as bad as Leppings Lane. An analysis after implementation of the recommendations would almost certainly show Penistone Rd and the exit route from the North Stand as pretty serious. 

Using the same logic to other areas, SAG would probably then reduce our capacity to about 20k with every alternate seat available. 

 

None of the analysis bears any resemblance to the events of the 1989 disaster. And  applying the same theory to almost any other ground in the country is likely to find matters similar or worse.

 

But we know that will not happen. This  seems to be a special analysis to try and excuse SYP yet again from incompetence and is a special theory to be applied only to Hillsborough. I hope the courts dismiss it for the biased and frankly dangerous nonsense it is. 

 

In in the meantime, we are left with another travesty affecting our club where we are going to be allowed to use around 30,000 seats in a ground where there are nearly 40,000. I hope we have a massive win later today. 

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The report is completely flawed and bias.

 

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So are they segregating people at the team stop 100 odd metres up the road. 

 

Whats the justification? Overcrowding and crush potential or fans fighting each other. 

 

There must be a risk and cause highlighted as part of the study. 

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1 hour ago, 4evaowl said:

It's reported in the Daily Mail (I know) that the club received an initial report on 26th June but did not attend and initial safety meeting on this issue on 17th July. SWFCs response at a meeting a week later was then deemed inadequate.

 

Anyone know if this is true (not attending the 17th July meeting)?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, owls maniac said:

Sounds like something has been leaked to the DM from the SAG. Which in itself is inappropriate. 

 

If true then the club need to up their game. Stunts like that only strengthen SYP’s case that we aren’t taking it seriously. 

 

When we put out an official statement SYP responded with a statement of their own that includes these details, it is on the SYP website and has also been reported in the Star.

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/war-of-words-breaks-out-between-police-and-sheffield-wednesday-over-crowd-safety-at-hillsborough-489374

 

 

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Utter phooking 8ollocks

 

Seriously... they all have it in for us. 

Any excuse to pass on blame, they'll do it. Corrupt to the core  SYP and the EFL.

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This situation seems destined to lead to a complete mess later today with further issues coming from it. 

 

Fans who react badly or haven’t got the message or fail to hear instructions etc will no doubt be used as a further reason against the club... a vicious circle. 

 

I’m not into conspiracies generally but it’s starting to look like it... or at the very least a situation where ‘they’ can’t be seen to be ‘wrong’... leading to digging their heels in and making it appear as a campaign against the club. ‘They’ appear to want the club to be seen in a bag light - with very fishy timing. However, ‘they’ as an entity surely can not fully be anti SWFC - as even their employees may be fans of the club... so an agenda either doesn’t exist or goes deeper than we think. 

 

I feel for DC. The guy just wanted to buy a club and put on some football matches - and he gets all this to deal with. He must be emotionally and physically knackered running this club... is he actually being targeted, as a man wealthy enough that could afford to buy us a new ground - and is therefore trying to be forced into doing so?  

 

Worthless info alert: 

 

One afternoon, a couple of weeks ago I was walking past the LL end... there were a few men there with clipboards gesturing up to the tram stop etc and at the away end. Got some bad vibes from it - didn’t get the feeling these were people from the club. 

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8 hours ago, Blatter said:

Just read the report in full. It concentrates on crowd density and fan mixing at Leppings Lane.

I can see no consideration of crowd density risk at the East End of the stadium caused by their recommendations for egress of home fans.

 

I would call that a seriously flawed set of recommendations needing a more comprehensive study.

The report even specifically states that it's recommendations for all fans from the north stand to 'egress' to the east side of the stadium onto Penistone Rd should only be implemented after further analysis has been carried out on the impact of that action. 

 

Has anyone seen THAT report.....?:ph34r:

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7 hours ago, Ash76 said:

 

Very poor taste

 

As for what we can do, aside from writing letters or emails the obvious thing is a 1000 or so people protesting at the LL end 2 - 2.30/2.45

 

That will give them something to think 

Sorry if my post offended anyone, I picked a random time with no thought to it's connection to the disaster. 

Lesson learned. 

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7 hours ago, 4evaowl said:

It's reported in the Daily Mail (I know) that the club received an initial report on 26th June but did not attend and initial safety meeting on this issue on 17th July. SWFCs response at a meeting a week later was then deemed inadequate.

 

Anyone know if this is true (not attending the 17th July meeting)?

 

 

 

i heard that yesterday from someone with contacts at the club. 

 

 

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I would urge all Wednesday fans whatever frustrations they face today that they remain calm and dignified and treat the police and stewards with respect and friendliness.

 

The SAG team etc will exploit any flash points they can however trivial, we are now aware that they fight dirty and in underhand manner.

 

If you see a Barnsley fan giving it the big one walk on by and ignore them, or give them a hug.  

 

WAWAW

 

 

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