tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: That we’ll have to find out Given how many sides lost at Luton, not many managers did know what to do But they were all league 1 managers!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, tommycockles said: But they were all league 1 managers!!? Plus a few in the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Plus a few in the cup They lost in first round of league cup, and we put em out of fa cup in Jan!! But not sure that was original posters consideration. I dont think he was predicting at some point a bullen lead swfc will be 1 down at Luton, more questioning whether he has the tactical acumen and experience to turn round games that are getting away from us. Rather than him being able to master the mighty Luton!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 We could just appoint a manager who’s proven to have that kind of tactical nous instead. Radical thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, tommycockles said: They lost in first round of league cup, and we put em out of fa cup in Jan!! But not sure that was original posters consideration. I dont think he was predicting at some point a bullen lead swfc will be 1 down at Luton, more questioning whether he has the tactical acumen and experience to turn round games that are getting away from us. Rather than him being able to master the mighty Luton!!! I’m not totally convinced by Bullen, and following last weekends good performance at Reading, I could really see us losing 3-0 at home to Barnsley. The issue for me is, I’m not convinced by any of the others mentioned either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I’m not totally convinced by Bullen, and following last weekends good performance at Reading, I could really see us losing 3-0 at home to Barnsley. The issue for me is, I’m not convinced by any of the others mentioned either So you'd be happy with a 'better the devil you know' scenario, even if he not up to job, than appointing someone who has a raft of experience as a manger at championship level and seeing if they'd work out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, tommycockles said: So you'd be happy with a 'better the devil you know' scenario, even if he not up to job, than appointing someone who has a raft of experience as a manger at championship level and seeing if they'd work out?? No not quite, I’d be happier appointing someone who wouldn’t cost us a fortune, and had as much chance of succeeding as any of the other suggested candidates. That’s the crux of it, there are no convincing candidates available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: No not quite, I’d be happier appointing someone who wouldn’t cost us a fortune, and had as much chance of succeeding as any of the other suggested candidates. That’s the crux of it, there are no convincing candidates available Yeah, but the dabate, surely, is HAS Bullen as much chance of success as the out of work vastly more experienced champ' managers available??. Not sure where the basis for such an assertion comes from, as he's only ever been a 'manager' for 9 games, winning 4, and that's over 3 different spells!!. But again, my point is not whether Bullen right choice, merely that DC mustn't think so or the 'caretaker' bit on his badge would be crossed out by now surely?? Edited August 9, 2019 by tommycockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield_SWFC Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Bullen has more coaching / managerial experience then Lampard had when he went to Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dronfield_SWFC said: Bullen has more coaching / managerial experience then Lampard had when he went to Derby But to be fair, lampard operated at a far higher level, and could learn from manager of far greater talent & ability then Bullen ever has, so really they're not overly comparable situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tommycockles said: Yeah, but the dabate, surely, is HAS Bullen as much chance of success as the out of work vastly more experienced champ' managers available??. Not sure where the basis for such an assertion comes from, as he's only ever been a 'manager' for 9 games, winning 4, and that's over 3 different spells!!. But again, my point is not whether Bullen right choice, merely that DC mustn't think so or the 'caretaker' bit on his badge would be crossed out by now surely?? No not really, it probably just underlines your point. He probably isn’t sure, like a lot of us aren’t, not only whether Bullen might be the right man for the job, or whether any of the other available candidates are. He’s giving himself time, either for Bullen to prove he’s the right man for the job, or for a suitable candidate to emerge. The point is, why appoint someone else you are unconvinced about, probably on a three year contract, let him bring in all his back room staff, and have all the cost of getting rid, if your reservations prove to be correct. I’m not convinced by any of them, but somebody needs to be holding the fort, so I’m happy to stick with the status quo Edited August 9, 2019 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Bullen has to start somewhere. Wasn’t my first choice by a mile either. But circumstance has changed, our number 1 target doesn’t want it. Bullen has continued playing too the teams strengths of last season. I personally don’t want someone coming in and changing all the good things we’ve been doing since Christmas. It’s a very different situation to when your team is doing poorly and looking for a new boss, I just don’t at the moment see the need to knock it down and start again. I’m happy to see the work that’s started continue with Bullen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I like LB, handles himself well and gives decent press conferences. I hope he gets a fair crack at it, lets see how things loom after 15 or 20 games and the squad has had time together. Hope he makes it work. Be nice to get a few youngsters out on loan if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: No not really, it probably just underlines your point. He probably isn’t sure, like a lot of us aren’t, not only whether Bullen might be the right man for the job, or whether any of the other available candidates are. He’s giving himself time, either for Bullen to prove he’s the right man for the job, or for a suitable candidate to emerge. The point is, why appoint someone else you are unconvinced about, probably on a three year contract, let him bring in all his back room staff, and have all the cost of getting rid, if your reservations prove to be correct. I’m not convinced by any of them, but somebody needs to be holding the fort, so I’m happy to stick with the status quo Fair do's, so why doesn't DC publicly back him and announce it's Bullen's for the foreseeable future and we can all settle in and crack on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 To be fair, this is now his 3rd caretaker spell and he seems to get better each spell. That Burton game is still ingrained on my Bullen CV though, but we seem to be moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, tommycockles said: Fair do's, so why doesn't DC publicly back him and announce it's Bullen's for the foreseeable future and we can all settle in and crack on?? He may well soon, or on the other hand, he may believe there is someone in the pipeline who might become available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Surprised we haven't talked to knill. Supposed to be the tactical genius behind the mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, GerOwl said: To be fair, this is now his 3rd caretaker spell and he seems to get better each spell. That Burton game is still ingrained on my Bullen CV though, but we seem to be moving forward. Sure, and it’s why I’m not totally convinced, and why I suggested, it wouldn’t be a complete surprise if we lost 3-0 at home to Barnsley. Were that to happen, maybe we may have to look at things differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycockles Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: He may well soon, or on the other hand, he may believe there is someone in the pipeline who might become available So DC might or might not make an announcement on Bullen, and/or is looking at someone else!!. Can't argue with that, glad its all cleared up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield_SWFC Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, tommycockles said: But to be fair, lampard operated at a far higher level, and could learn from manager of far greater talent & ability then Bullen ever has, so really they're not overly comparable situations I hear your point but many of the best managers never payed at the highest level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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