Geörge Whitebread Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) How can we still be waiting for what should've been priority #1 to be solved? Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough at right-back, let alone on the wrong side, trying to use his standing foot! But even playing out of position he's better than Fox. Thorniley offers cover off the bench if there's an injury and we need to see a game out. But he's not mobile enough to be a starting LB and his crossing is only just better than Fox/Palmer's. When is Penney back? He's probably too light-weight defensively, really. But he showed signs of being able to cross a ball. So, could he do a job there against weaker opposition? (I see him more as back up for Harris if we revert to a 4-4-2 though really) Is Odubajo going to make the switch once Iorfa's back? He's better than Palmer, but can another right-back really be a permanent solution? Surely, we're going to sign an actual left back? Surely?! If not, this is always going to be the ch_ ink in our armour and every opposition manager knows there's at least a goal or two available for them if they keep targeting that side. Edited August 7, 2019 by George Whitebread Swear filter keeps taking out a word that is fine in the context I'm using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Stopped reading at 'Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough' Tired old Owlstalk cliche lazy thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) Were Reading exploiting it? I thought Palmer was pretty solid there last season, I know they're not great but his form got him a Scotland cap. I actually felt he was better there than he is at RB We wanted Lazaar so they must have addressed it but I guess it's sometimes difficult to bring players in and due to Palmers form they feel it was less of a priority compared to other areas Edited August 7, 2019 by Ellis Rimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Palmer can play left back, but having seen Odubajo and Iorfa play at right back, he’s probably needed on that side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie Birdsworth Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) If we sign Hector, Murphy, Luongo and a left back. That's a brilliant window or us. If I had to choose between signing Murphy or signing a left back I would sign a left back. Edited August 7, 2019 by Lizzie Birdsworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 A quality specialist left-back and we’ve got a very good back 5. It is a weak link as things stand though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchIsGolden Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Beholder said: Stopped reading at 'Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough' Tired old Owlstalk cliche lazy thinking. Hes not wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Stopped reading at 'Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough' Tired old Owlstalk cliche lazy thinking. There're nothing tired old or even Owlstalk related about it. My view on Palmer's inability to play at a level required for a side looking to push for promotion is based on watching him play. He might be OK as a squad player if we end up with a string of injuries mid-season, but he can't be our first choice left-back for the season, surely?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) Agree, a lb is more important than hector given we have 6 who can play cb. Winger and cm will hopefully be addressed but to balance us up we need a quick left footed lb for sure. We need a pacy striker too imo with joao going, hopefully selling rhodes will help complete a top 6 rebuild Edited August 7, 2019 by Ash77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 George Friend would be an excellent addition for LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Borner an option at LB? Palmer looks steady on the left side too. Is Fox really that bad? Penny overcome his injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 So players that can play left back or left wing back depending on the situation. Palmer who was our best player after Hector whilst playing at left back Fox - Who is better than the owlstalk mob believe Penney who could really shine given game time Thorniley who has done well there before Reach who we signed as a left back Borner who used to play there earlier in his career Odubajo who we need to see more of Iorfa could be switched as well as Palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Beholder said: Stopped reading at 'Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough' Tired old Owlstalk cliche lazy thinking. Got to agree with you here. We've had our debates over Palmer some time ago when I genuinely didn't think he was doing what is required of a full back at a top end Championship club. However, last season he was excellent, really stepped up his game and is deserving of a place in the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, George Whitebread said: There're nothing tired old or even Owlstalk related about it. My view on Palmer's inability to play at a level required for a side looking to push for promotion is based on watching him play. He might be OK as a squad player if we end up with a string of injuries mid-season, but he can't be our first choice left-back for the season, surely?! Ok. Not gonna get drawn into arguing again why Palmer is good enough- just that he is. We will have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchIsGolden Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Borner an option at LB? Palmer looks steady on the left side too. Is Fox really that bad? Penny overcome his injuries? Nah. For 1 season, if he manages for 2 I will be impressed. Yes. Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evaD Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, George Whitebread said: How can we still be waiting for what should've been priority #1 to be solved? Liam Palmer obviously isn't good enough at right-back, let alone on the wrong side, trying to use his standing foot! But even playing out of position he's better than Fox. Thorniley offers cover off the bench if there's an injury and we need to see a game out. But he's not mobile enough to be a starting LB and his crossing is only just better than Fox/Palmer's. When is Penney back? He's probably too light-weight defensively, really. But he showed signs of being able to cross a ball. So, could he do a job there against weaker opposition? (I see him more as back up for Harris if we revert to a 4-4-2 though really) Is Odubajo going to make the switch once Iorfa's back? He's better than Palmer, but can another right-back really be a permanent solution? Surely, we're going to sign an actual left back? Surely?! If not, this is always going to be the ch_ ink in our armour and every opposition manager knows there's at least a goal or two available for them if they keep targeting that side. Obviously didn't watch us last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, paddyowl said: George Friend would be an excellent addition for LB Legs have gone unfortunately. Would be like having Pudil of the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, LJY1985 said: Nah. For 1 season, if he manages for 2 I will be impressed. Yes. Nah. Borner played left back earlier in his career apparently, perhaps the plan was always for him to compete there and he's just filled in CD for us until Hector signs? Think with the number of right backs we have in the squad, it's at least worth giving Palmer an extended shot on the left side. Not many players do well on their opposite side in the full back positions mind. Sure he played behind closed doors this week, good sign. Can't be too far away from a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ash77 said: Agree, a lb is more important than hector given we have 6 who can play cb. Winger and cm will hopefully be addressed but to balance us up we need a quick left footed lb for sure. We need a pacy striker too imo with joao going, hopefully selling rhodes will help complete a top 6 rebuild We might have 6 cb but half them arnt good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Palmer played well at Reading he got an assist. He is often accused of not getting assists well in first match of season he got one. he also had a couple of excellent runs forward including a shot at goal which was deflected narrowly wide. To complain about his performance is by those who like to moan for sake of it and when nothing obvious revert to an old favourite. I expect Nuhiu thread and Dawson thread before weekend. By the way dawson handling was spot on and he had quite a bit to do when coming on but was assured in what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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