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Let's put this into perspective 

 

Owls and Rams faced the same problem, Carpet ripped from under their feet prior to the start of the season 

 

Both managers poached by Premier League  Clubs 

 

Mel Morris Reaction

 

Derby County 

 

Phillip Cocu

 

Won 3 Eredevise 

Won the Dutch Cup

101 international Caps for his country

Massive scouting network 

In Talks to bring Wayne Rooney as a Player Coach

 

 

 

Mr Chansiri Reaction 

 

Lee Bullen 

 

No experience in management except caretaker 

Played lower division football 

 

Can anybody please tell me which Club has got the most ambition 

 

We have got probably the easiest start to the division we have ever had and the disturbing thing for me is that Bullen will get the job on the strength of it 

 

Gutted

 

 

 

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My fear is the unacceptable delay is Paxo led, as he is waiting on a foreign connection.

 

Hope I'm wrong.

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From watching the Derby game last night they also have 2 "Specialist First Team coaches".

Liam Rosenior and some Dutch guy.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

My fear is the unacceptable delay is Paxo led, as he is waiting on a foreign connection.

 

Hope I'm wrong.

We are all hoping that  this is just my thoughts at the moment

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Bluey9 said:

Let's put this into perspective 

 

Owls and Rams faced the same problem, Carpet ripped from under their feet prior to the start of the season 

 

Both managers poached by Premier League  Clubs 

 

Mel Morris Reaction

 

Derby County 

 

Phillip Cocu

 

Won 3 Eredevise 

Won the Dutch Cup

101 international Caps for his country

Massive scouting network 

In Talks to bring Wayne Rooney as a Player Coach

 

 

 

Mr Chansiri Reaction 

 

Lee Bullen 

 

No experience in management except caretaker 

Played lower division football 

 

Can anybody please tell me which Club has got the most ambition 

 

We have got probably the easiest start to the division we have ever had and the disturbing thing for me is that Bullen will get the job on the strength of it 

 

Gutted

 

 

 

 

I can't argue with a lot of what you are saying there.  One of the problems we seem to have with Chansiri from the outside looking in is an inability to grasp a situation quickly. Things always seem to take an age to happen if they ever do? I always expected from the day Bruce resigned that 3 weeks on we'd be still looking for a manager and the longer things stay as they are the more likely he'll go with Bullen? Almost 5 years as a football club owner and he still doesn't seem to understand the constant changes that occur in the game and the need to be flexible and re-active in order to stay ahead in the game?

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1 minute ago, Great Big Galaa said:

 

I can't argue with a lot of what you are saying there.  One of the problems we seem to have with Chansiri from the outside looking in is inability to grasp a situation quickly. Things always seem to take an age to happen if they ever do? I always expected from the day Bruce resigned that 3 weeks on we'd be still looking for a manager and the longer things stay as they are the more likely he'll go with Bullen? Almost 5 years as a football club owner and he still doesn't seem to understand the constant changes that occur in the game and the need to be flexible and re-active in order to stay ahead in the game?

Great Post !

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12 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

Shouldn't this wait until we actually appoint a manager?

 

 

If and when

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5 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said:

 

I can't argue with a lot of what you are saying there.  One of the problems we seem to have with Chansiri from the outside looking in is inability to grasp a situation quickly. Things always seem to take an age to happen if they ever do? I always expected from the day Bruce resigned that 3 weeks on we'd be still looking for a manager and the longer things stay as they are the more likely he'll go with Bullen? Almost 5 years as a football club owner and he still doesn't seem to understand the constant changes that occur in the game and the need to be flexible and re-active in order to stay ahead in the game?

Have we got our compensation from newcastle yet?

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I reckon Holloway if Rowett can’t find his toiletries bag before Thursday

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24 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said:

My fear is the unacceptable delay is Paxo led, as he is waiting on a foreign connection.

 

Hope I'm wrong.

I don’t think your wrong, he’s very much still around at the club .

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8 minutes ago, billyblack said:

Have we got our compensation from newcastle yet?

 

No idea. I suggest you ask Handworth to ask Chansiri the next time he sees him?

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12 minutes ago, billyblack said:

If and when

 

There is no 'if' :dry:

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Cocu's won 1 game as Derby manager so far, hardly appointment of the season yet is it? 

 

I wouldn't be satisfied with appointing a 'named' manager on the basis of what they've done in their playing career, sooner have someone that wants the job, and will give it their all whilst having it. 

 

The difference between Derby and ourselves is that we literally had no time to react to a situation forced upon us by 2 unscrupulous people involved in the whole saga. 

 

Chansiri's playing this the right way for me, don't upset things unless absolutely necessary. It should be Bullen's job to claim, if he proves over the coming weeks he has the players onside, and the results follow.

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Phillip Cocu is obviously a big name and a good coach but I get the feeling his is not suited to the Championship and will soon be off. Be very surprised if he is still at Derby next season.
Have to agree though with some other posters that it is taking us too long to resolve the managers position. 

 

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27 minutes ago, WatfordOwl said:

Cocu's won 1 game as Derby manager so far, hardly appointment of the season yet is it? 

 

I wouldn't be satisfied with appointing a 'named' manager on the basis of what they've done in their playing career, sooner have someone that wants the job, and will give it their all whilst having it. 

 

The difference between Derby and ourselves is that we literally had no time to react to a situation forced upon us by 2 unscrupulous people involved in the whole saga. 

 

Chansiri's playing this the right way for me, don't upset things unless absolutely necessary. It should be Bullen's job to claim, if he proves over the coming weeks he has the players onside, and the results follow.

 

1/Cocu was appointed  within a week of Lampard leaving !

 

2 cocu won the Top Dutch league 3 times in 4 years as a manager

 

3/ easiest start on paper that we could have hoped for , he will get points in the first month that's nailed on

 

As I have said No Ambition 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bluey9 said:

 

1/Cocu was appointed  within a week of Lampard leaving !

 

2 cocu won the Top Dutch league 3 times in 4 years as a manager

 

3/ easiest start on paper that we could have hoped for , he will get points in the first month that's nailed on

 

As I have said No Ambition 

 

 

 

So you think our team couldn't have dealt with Derby or Huddersfield based on last nights performance ?  That's without a manager...mind you any excuse to have a pop at the club and chairman.

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1 hour ago, Bluey9 said:

Let's put this into perspective 

 

Owls and Rams faced the same problem, Carpet ripped from under their feet prior to the start of the season 

 

Both managers poached by Premier League  Clubs 

 

Mel Morris Reaction

 

Derby County 

 

Phillip Cocu

 

Won 3 Eredevise 

Won the Dutch Cup

101 international Caps for his country

Massive scouting network 

In Talks to bring Wayne Rooney as a Player Coach

 

 

 

Mr Chansiri Reaction 

 

Lee Bullen 

 

No experience in management except caretaker 

Played lower division football 

 

Can anybody please tell me which Club has got the most ambition 

 

We have got probably the easiest start to the division we have ever had and the disturbing thing for me is that Bullen will get the job on the strength of it 

 

Gutted

 

 

 

So? Derby aren't exactly a model of success

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7 minutes ago, Bluey9 said:

 

1/Cocu was appointed  within a week of Lampard leaving !

 

2 cocu won the Top Dutch league 3 times in 4 years as a manager

 

3/ easiest start on paper that we could have hoped for , he will get points in the first month that's nailed on

 

As I have said No Ambition 

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's a lack of ambition getting a new manager. 
More a case of no outstanding candidate we can attract coupled with a bit of indecisiveness from the owner.

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