NeonLeon Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: What on earth do we do with £800k a year in instalments? What seemed good business is now awful business. Just now, gurujuan said: Can’t really be £800k a year, as it has to be over the length of his contract doesn’t it? The down payment is £800k, and as said the rumours at their end is the concession on Hector is on top of that. You'd imagine it’ll be worth £1.2-1.5 a year to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, HirstWhoScoredIt said: We don’t need the cash we need the accounting profit for FFP. I were hoping it would be one out and a few in scenario. What an awful deal this looks to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, jamsandwich said: all these transfer charlies on here. when you SELL - you recognise as much of the transfer fee as possible as soon as possible. when you BUY - you recognise the fee over the life of the contract it looks better in the books. 800k upfront plus the rest on performance is a terrible deal for Joao. The only benefit is it gets his wage off the books. It doesn’t matter what the upfront cost is or the instalments, we’ll still be getting the total price that we want We’ll just structure any new signings to fit in with the instalments If we’re getting £6m for Joao over the length of a 4 year contract, then we still have £6m to spend (if we are reinvesting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, jamsandwich said: all these transfer charlies on here. when you SELL - you recognise as much of the transfer fee as possible as soon as possible. when you BUY - you recognise the fee over the life of the contract it looks better in the books. Thats why the whole Rhodes saga was a mess - because if we sell him for less than we bought him for then it looks terrible in the books 800k upfront plus the rest on performance is a terrible deal for Joao. The only benefit is it gets his wage off the books. It depends whether the rest is based just on performance or whether some of it is guaranteed but over instalments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, We'llNeverBeMastered said: I were hoping it would be one out and a few in scenario. What an awful deal this looks to be. This is how football transfers work. It doesn’t stop us bringing anyone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, alanharper said: Not all league goals and he's over 25. Could we get him for £5-6m? No. This is the end result. With the ffp situations we probably aren't in the position to get top whack for our players. Harsh lessons learnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, jamsandwich said: all these transfer charlies on here. when you SELL - you recognise as much of the transfer fee as possible as soon as possible. when you BUY - you recognise the fee over the life of the contract it looks better in the books. Thats why the whole Rhodes saga was a mess - because if we sell him for less than we bought him for then it looks terrible in the books 800k upfront plus the rest on performance is a terrible deal for Joao. The only benefit is it gets his wage off the books. There's rumours that Reading will drop the sell on clause for Hector, meaning we get him cheaper 7 Million for Joao, and Hector comes on a reduced fee, sounds okay to me Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 With the Joao instalments & the stadium instalments we should be fkng loaded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: There's rumours that Reading will drop the sell on clause for Hector, meaning we get him cheaper 7 Million for Joao, and Hector comes on a reduced fee, sounds okay to me How on earth are we buying hector with an £800k upfront payment? That's where I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basegreenowl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Hopeless deal. Why do other clubs get an easy deal when signing our players? Either below market value or some hopeless staged payment. Are we staging Hector in?? All the other strikers are one dimensional. Hope some variety comes in. Doubt it if it's all stages money. Got the bodies in yes but Lucas was the only variety up top. We will all be fed up if an Hector type signing don't happen. Maybe a rare winger/striker type might benefit the squad. That extra winger we need plus not scared of a stint down the middle type. Can't fathem one up but I suppose it could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 words SELL ON CLAUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: How on earth are we buying hector with an £800k upfront payment? That's where I'm confused. Because we'll recieve instalments of £5-7M from Reading and we'll pay for Hector with instalments to Chelsea. Its how a lot of deals are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: How on earth are we buying hector with an £800k upfront payment? That's where I'm confused. We're buying him in 50p installments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) I’d like Hector but he shouldn’t be a priority. Similar situation to signing McGugan and Rhodes. Do we really need him? Great player, but Borner looks the part. If cash is scarce i’d rather not splash millions on Hector. Get a young CB on loan and use the Joao money to sign a CM and a winger. Edited August 6, 2019 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 We play one upfront and have 6 strikers People are moaning when we finally sell one for actual money 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 If it is 800k that that's just the initial payment. It could be structured a number of different ways. It could be a 800k payment every 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I’d like Hector but he shouldn’t be a priority. Similar situation to signing McGugan and Rhodes. Do we really need him? Great player, but Borner looks the part. If cash is scarce i’d rather not splash millions on Hector. Get a young CB on loan and use the Joao money to sign a CM and a winger. Hector was our player of the season by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bigrbuk said: We're buying him in 50p installments They send a man in a cheap suit round every Thursday with a big book and your mum Chansiri pays him this week's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 10am medical today. Done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sova Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: 0.51 goals per 90 minutes last season for Joao. Whoscored say 0.6, putting him in the top 10 for those who played over 20 games, and the top 5 if we add in being under 26 as well. I really hope we're getting at least 7 million for him. 5 milion would be a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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