EcclesallOwl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 £5m-£7m is a great price for us He’ll probably do well at Reading We can’t keep trying to rely on him season after season when he’s shown he’s too inconsistent Take the money and reinvest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) £6m is cracking business for a player who is never going to be first choice playing in the 4-3-3 we are setting up in. Has pace and skill but his workrate and hold up play is bang average at times... Sometimes looks good sometimes couldn't trap a bag of cement. Edited August 6, 2019 by wellbeaten-the-owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Rogers said: £2.8m with add on's if Reading get promoted (they'll get relegated) 2 hours ago, bradowl said: Me too but my guess is fee is in region of £5m which clubs won't pay for any of them three. Probably means we can now sign Michael Hector which is what we need. My guess much nearer. Good bit of business if it means signing Hector. Without doubt Joao is a talented player but attitude questionable on many occasions, some times he looks so laid back he's almost horizontal. When he walked off crying against Rotherham because he broke a tooth I started fearing his attitude, we need fighters when the going gets tough but you can't rely on him, he gets easily bullied which shouldn't happen with his size. I think one or two are upset about him going just on strength of a very good goal he scored on Saturday. Those saying we should sell Winnall or Nuhui instead, well wouldn't get anywhere near 5 to 7m for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: If Lees gets injured would you be comfortable with Iorfa/Borner or any other combination. Taking a big risk not signing another decent centre half imo. Not really. But i would be less comfortable losing lee and bannan and having joey and hutch as CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sham67 said: Sorry mate. Unless they can transplant his brain, he isn't going to change. Maybe so but he’ll always possess the attributes to cause teams major problems. he needs to be the main man at a club.....Maybe he’ll get that at reading. Him & the big striker who scored against us Saturday could form a decent partnership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: If Joao wants to leave and the money is being offered, we do right to move him on. Just a shame because I think Joao could realise his potential this season. He’s at the right age now. Good luck to the lad. He'll be 26 next month and we're still talking about his potential. The really weird thing is, it's not as bonkers as it sounds: all the elements are there for him to be a top striker, but he seems incapable of putting it all together for more than a few fleeting moments here and there. We've had enough chances for our coaching team(s) to look at him and work with him over the years though, and it would appear they've decided it's just not going to happen for him. Somewhere in the region of £6m seems about right, given that he veers between looking like a £15m striker and a £1m striker depending on which way the wind's blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Decent fee - but it still feels like we can’t play hardball as much as we’d like to (as having the likes of Abdi have drained the clubs money) To his credit, DC always tries to back his manager, so I expect we’ll try for a couple of loans. However, I doubt we’ll try to buy Hector - we need to clear some debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: He'll be 26 next month and we're still talking about his potential. The really weird thing is, it's not as bonkers as it sounds: all the elements are there for him to be a top striker, but he seems incapable of putting it all together for more than a few fleeting moments here and there. We've had enough chances for our coaching team(s) to look at him and work with him over the years though, and it would appear they've decided it's just not going to happen for him. Somewhere in the region of £6m seems about right, given that he veers between looking like a £15m striker and a £1m striker depending on which way the wind's blowing. This ∆∆∆ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 0.51 goals per 90 minutes last season for Joao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 hours ago, IWEDFM said: There would be plenty of takers for Winnall if we put him up for sale Depends on price not a lot league 1 clubs could go over 500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, adamnich said: why is that that virtually none of our signings or sales have a disclosed fee? Yes we are given a rough amount or it comes out in the wash but everyone else seems to publish the fees. Why is it always such a secret with us? Keep asking the same question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: £5m-£7m is a great price for us He’ll probably do well at Reading We can’t keep trying to rely on him season after season when he’s shown he’s too inconsistent Take the money and reinvest We need to use the money on a couple of replacements or it’s a pointless move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack the Hat said: ^^^^100% this. I just don’t get it. The more strikers we sell the more game time nuhui gets. Yes we had too many strikers but we look like getting rid of Hooper, Rhodes and Joao but keeping winnall and Nuhui. Big mistake Maybe the decisions are not driven by fantasy football but the need to balance the books, the interest shown in signing the respective players and perhaps even the desires of the individuals concerned? 1 hour ago, modboy said: Did ok with Darkos sell-on fee back one the deep deep past At least one source questioned whether we ever received (or even actively pursued) the extra amount. 33 minutes ago, Sham67 said: As we've only sold one player in the Chansiri era . How on earth have you come to that conclusion? We've sold at least two; Jack Hunt and Rhoys Wiggins. Can't think of another though. 10 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Also if we sell Joao, Hector shouldn’t be the top priority. Need to find a winger or an attacker who has pace and trickery. Should look at splashing our cash there. Priority one is central midfield without any question. Our formation requires 3 of them and we only have 4 experienced options in the squad. When you consider that one of those is coming off a serious injury and that another is regularly missing games, it makes the need more urgent still. Edited August 6, 2019 by DJMortimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Will probably do well at Reading and if he's played regularly then he most likely will. One of the reasons he hasn't been consistent here is because of the glut of striker options, we've always made a change when he has an off day rather than give the lad a decent run in the team and play him through a dip in form? As a result he's never developed a rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, IWEDFM said: Not happy to be honest He scores goals and offers us something different Would have rather we sold Winnall/Rhodes/Nuhiu This^^^. Club is that shybo at transfers that he’ll probably end up leaving on a free/next to nothing and we end up with nothing from any sell on. Antonio transfer mk2! Edited August 6, 2019 by airborne_rat_of_s6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S26 Owl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, billyblack said: It always seems to be us. Heres a question, when was the last time you could actually sit back and think, "that was a great bit of business Wednesday", when we sold a player? Profit on Stevie May after about 3 goals was great business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Why people are talking about Hector replacing Joao is a bit bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 We'll be stuck with the concrete carthorse getting game time for another season FFS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) Perhaps clearing decks before Dwight Gayle comes in on loan as part of Newcastle compo deal Edited August 6, 2019 by wellbeaten-the-owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, richowl said: Maybe so but he’ll always possess the attributes to cause teams major problems. he needs to be the main man at a club.....Maybe he’ll get that at reading. Him & the big striker who scored against us Saturday could form a decent partnership I could be in bed with Gemma Chan and Emma Willis. You never know, there's always a chance , however remote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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