lanzaroteowl Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, Brando17 said: including Jos !!!! You also have to know what not to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 hours ago, fred mciver said: Last night on RS Bullen suggested players were unfit for past few pre - seasons, but not now thanks to Bruce. Well, he was their coach while they were unprepared for a new campaign. Plus he assisted Jos. Given he very likely had absolute zero say, Jos had his own methods which were bizarre in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtawnyowl Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, kazads said: What if he won say 6 games on trot...would you change it? But what if he lost the first 6 on the trot? Probably meaning the sack and the end of a beautiful friendship/partnership with the club he obviously loves and who's supporters love him. Don't chance it Bully! Stick to coaching and stay with The Wednesday. Edited July 30, 2019 by oldtawnyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 hours ago, standerino said: The thing people need to realise - without trying to cause panic - is that if we don’t go up this season, we are screwed with FFP. the ground sale was a massive one-off plaster to cover the cracks, and can’t be repeated. it’s okay saying ‘give Bully a chance’ but we aren’t in a position to just see how things pan out non-chalantly. If a better option doesn’t come along, then fair enough, but realistically we need an established manager at this moment in time. Interesting opinion on ffp fella.................................................go on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 hours ago, oldtawnyowl said: But what if he lost the first 6 on the trot? Probably meaning the sack and the end of a beautiful friendship/partnership with the club he obviously loves and who's supporters love him. Don't chance it Bully! Stick to coaching and stay with The Wednesday. I think he's more useful to the Club and Chansiri in his current role. If and when things go wrong we know Bullen will be there to offer continuity, as he is currently doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 21 hours ago, Lomas613 said: Some fans moaning that he’ll be in charge but what I don’t get is he was working alongside Bruce remember and the fitness coach etc is still with us so all bullen would be doing is continuing the progress Bruce started surely maybe with a twist of his own ideas but other things he might roll with ?? Everyone believed Bruce would get us there so bullen surely won’t change too many things. But a new manager would change a lot more surely. So if we was all optimistic under Bruce then stay optimistic with bullen I am Its not about there being an issue with Bullen. He is not good enough for what we are looking for, full stop. Waits for the usual ""he's a nice guy though, top bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey9 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Love Bullen for his loyalty But if Chansiri gives him the job all the good will created with the Bruce appointment will be gone We need another manager with experience We still have a good squad capable of getting out of this division We should have a good start regardless with the fixtures Trouble is when the cracks start to appear Bullen will disappear into one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standerino Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 13 hours ago, DELUDED OWL said: Interesting opinion on ffp fella.................................................go on ? ‘Although the club have booked a profit within the year, without the sale of Hillsborough it would have lost around £35.5m with VAT and if you add that to the losses from the two previous years, that would have taken the losses to £66m compared to an FFP allowance of £39m.’ - Kieran Maguire (that football finances guy) based on the above, we are going to breach FFP by the end of this season, and it won’t even be close... someone please correct me if I’m wrong! (I hope I am!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, standerino said: ‘Although the club have booked a profit within the year, without the sale of Hillsborough it would have lost around £35.5m with VAT and if you add that to the losses from the two previous years, that would have taken the losses to £66m compared to an FFP allowance of £39m.’ - Kieran Maguire (that football finances guy) based on the above, we are going to breach FFP by the end of this season, and it won’t even be close... someone please correct me if I’m wrong! (I hope I am!) Ahh yes, that man Kieran Maguire. Would have.......... But didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 As we ended up in profit for the last year I think we have to lose less than the figure for the year before to stay under the £39m. Maybe the £39m will be reviewed given the way fees and wages are increasing year on year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) On 30/07/2019 at 12:14, Lomas613 said: Could be our version of wilder Give it a rest as much as I don't like wilder..have you seen how he commands himself? Bullen is way way way too nice Edited July 31, 2019 by keepitsteel89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 30/07/2019 at 03:58, lanzaroteowl said: Had his apprenticeship under several differing managers now. Could be a good bet. Apprenticeship! What apprenticeship??? He could have been making his marks for a league 2 outfit and working his way up. Good for rolling out the balls and getting the lads together, but lord help me we need someone with actual managerial nous, from tactics to recruitment. Would be a depressing lack of ambition if given more than a minimal few matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 hours ago, owlsdreamer said: Its not about there being an issue with Bullen. He is not good enough for what we are looking for, full stop. Waits for the usual ""he's a nice guy though, top bloke. How do you know he isn't good enough ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, torryowl said: How do you know he isn't good enough ? This is too big a club for him to have an audition to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Socialist_Owl said: This is too big a club for him to have an audition to find out. well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 22 hours ago, Big Jack said: Given he very likely had absolute zero say, Jos had his own methods which were bizarre in the extreme. Then why not resign instead of taking our money for doing nowt? And the players must really respect him if that was his role - handing out training bibs. Nice guy. But he should stick to estate agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Then why not resign instead of taking our money for doing nowt? And the players must really respect him if that was his role - handing out training bibs. Nice guy. But he should stick to estate agency. Wow Fred, I didn't know Bully used to be an estate agent. Just shows what you can learn on Owlstalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Socialist_Owl said: This is too big a club for him to have an audition to find out. Pep Guardiola had his 'audition' with Barcelona. Zinedine Zidane had his 'audition' with Real Madrid What truly idiotic statement you've just made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Socialist_Owl said: This is too big a club for him to have an audition to find out. Maybe but all great managers started somewhere. ...we know monk and rowett arnt great managers so why not take gamble on a new bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, torryowl said: How do you know he isn't good enough ? Lets waste a good start to another season and find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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