Sham67 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 GERRIT FORRAD... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Gonna be a tw@ The thread title doesn't match the poll question. What style do I prefer, well that's a good ol' tick next to Option B, love me some possession footie. What style do I think would be most effective this season at getting us promoted, well with the players we have and the disrupted pre-season, it's no question... Option A, nice and direct and organised without being flamboyant. So yeah, I have different answers to the two different questions... do I win a prize? Yes, you have won a used black pudding from one of @Owlerton Ghost's soirees, . FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 When Howard Wilkinson took us up ,We played a type of football the purist did not like ,Long ball they called it ,I loved especially at Liverpool ,We won games our squad was the fittest in the division ,We could take any one on and give them a game ,Passy passy football or direct ? As long as we win games I am not bothered in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Ozymandias Owl said: technical ability in all positions, then possession based football would be everyone's preferred style of play. Eh, not mine...if ya good enough to play sideways without getting caught out then ya good enough to scare the foook out of the oppos in their half. 70's italian football is for dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anlaby Owl Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 As someone said, the question seems to be loaded. Direct football by no means requires every other pass to be 'hoofed' up to a pair of giant centre forwards...in its most entertaining form it involves passes in all directions with the killer pass generally being a fast penetrating through ball that splits the defence in two, allowing the forward facing centre forward to outpace the defenders simply because it initially leaves them facing the wrong direction. As someone else said this is what Leicester do/did with Jamie vardy.. it is also the way that the successful dalglish liverpool side used to play though this was instigated differently, with the likes of Barnes stretching teams, leaving more space down the middle for the inevitable through ball to be played. The one thing that both these styles have in common is hat the ball is moved quickly to create the gaps.. The alternative/slow build up style, ironically; often ends the same way (with a penetrating through ball) but it depends upon opponents moving up the field to press the defenders with the ball, thus leaving gaps behind the opponents (either in midfield or defence).. This didn't work for us in Carlos seasons 2 & 3 because opponents refused to press our defenders. The result was lots of possession (amongst our defenders) but very few chances. Personally I found the games utterly boring as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Anlaby Owl said: As someone said, the question seems to be loaded. Direct football by no means requires every other pass to be 'hoofed' up to a pair of giant centre forwards...in its most entertaining form it involves passes in all directions with the killer pass generally being a fast penetrating through ball that splits the defence in two, allowing the forward facing centre forward to outpace the defenders simply because it initially leaves them facing the wrong direction. As someone else said this is what Leicester do/did with Jamie vardy.. it is also the way that the successful dalglish liverpool side used to play though this was instigated differently, with the likes of Barnes stretching teams, leaving more space down the middle for the inevitable through ball to be played. The one thing that both these styles have in common is hat the ball is moved quickly to create the gaps.. The alternative/slow build up style, ironically; often ends the same way (with a penetrating through ball) but it depends upon opponents moving up the field to press the defenders with the ball, thus leaving gaps behind the opponents (either in midfield or defence).. This didn't work for us in Carlos seasons 2 & 3 because opponents refused to press our defenders. The result was lots of possession (amongst our defenders) but very few chances. Personally I found the games utterly boring as well. I'm not at all saying the likes of Bannan can't run with the ball through midfield and pick a pass, but we don't want to see him passing the ball sideways between the centre halves for five minutes, and then launching a forty yard telegraphed pass ever again. Forward, sideways and backwards and forwards, but not sideways, backwards, sideways and sideways and sideways and sideways and sideways and sideways... and hoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Gob_Bluth said: You've come to that conclusion on your own, I said nothing about playing in our own half or on the half way line Getting wide men and target men on for a team playing deep is asking for a 0-0 stalemate as the teams that play deep tend to have brutes as centre halves and crosses into the box are bread and butter for them so go on then, where are you going to draw them out to? if they're not going to be drawn into our half, or to half way where's this 'drawing' taking place? it's not asking for 0-0 at all, what a silly remark, the forwards are to be mobile enough to pull the BRUTES about their box and cause spaces in the defence. look at when goran-eriksson took england to Belfast, they threw up a solid defence and 'modern football' huffed and puffed at breaking it down all day long, we hadn't a proper traditional english centre forward on the field (as that is dinosaur football) meanwhile 'modern football' kept trying the same 'failing' method. the same one we used at wembley v 'ull when coco had no plan B answer either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 17 hours ago, Sham67 said: GERRIT FORRAD... ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK... or ****about, ****about, ****about, ****about, ****about... i'll give ****about it's due, when westwood get's it, you've time to go for a p*ss before it get's up to the forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: When Howard Wilkinson took us up ,We played a type of football the purist did not like ,Long ball they called it ,I loved especially at Liverpool ,We won games our squad was the fittest in the division ,We could take any one on and give them a game ,Passy passy football or direct ? As long as we win games I am not bothered in the slightest. I remember the 'know-alls' and 'purists' telling us we'd get 'bogged down when the winter came'. guess who got 'bogged down' a dozen and a half ground based passes, or keeper to midfielder on half way, who lays it off to overlapping fullback who drives forward another 20 yard and crosses for chapman to head into the net? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldowl67 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: When Howard Wilkinson took us up ,We played a type of football the purist did not like ,Long ball they called it ,I loved especially at Liverpool ,We won games our squad was the fittest in the division ,We could take any one on and give them a game ,Passy passy football or direct ? As long as we win games I am not bothered in the slightest. This. I remember us having the nerve to get a result away at Spurs and the match report on the radio afterwards was all about Wednesday’s Stormtroopers (not one player under 6 foot apparently) stopping Spurs playing their silky attacking football. One of the most annoying things you hear regularly from pundits and media has got to be ‘they play football the right way’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 20/07/2019 at 09:27, daztheowl said: What is direct attacking football ? Aim for Dave's head and hope it hits it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Aim for Dave's head and hope it hits it if you're playing a c/f (and there's no reason for not doing so) then he has to be a lot better than dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I’d prefer to see us play ... (long winded cliche ridden paragraph here) ... this would definitely get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Straight jackets ordered for the 19 possessed people that voted option B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Option C for me. we play “The Wednesday way”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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