shezzas left peg Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Not for me. I just don't think he's the right match for us to be successful, some managers just fit and some don't. Would be a bit of a jos situation if he drops a fans favourite or results don't go our way, very quickly. He's dull and passionless just like his football. Yes he's had some good results and a promotion on his cv, but I just don't see him fitting in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, gurujuan said: I’m not advocating Karanka, but the football under Bruce wasn’t exactly free flowing Can’t seem to remember too many complaining, in fact I would say I was in the minority when questioning it I was never for or against Bruce - not bothered he's gone tbh - more bothered about the way hes done it which leaves a bitter taste. I think there are better managers out there than Karanka, for us to chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Andrew6666 said: I was never for or against Bruce - not bothered he's gone tbh - more bothered about the way hes done it which leaves a bitter taste. I think there are better managers out there than Karanka, for us to chase. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: No no no no. Boro fans hated him and his dull football. Got them up. ..what do you want? Its about results at this level - the fancy stuff can come if/when we are back in the Prem. Edited July 17, 2019 by Earlsfieldowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Sorry, not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, smhouston said: To go up and come back down makes it pointless. It was still absolutely dross football. I remember going to watch us against them and they scored in literally the first minute of the game. After that they just shut up shop. Some would say it was a professional performance, others would say it was an absolute borefest, and it was something they did every season hence them always having the best defence but least amount scored in the top 6 every season he was in charge Not pointless at all, to come back down with all that money puts the club in a far better position, Boro have just chosen not to spend it wisely and haven't gone back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: I think there are better managers out there than Karanka, for us to chase. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, smhouston said: To go up and come back down makes it pointless. It was still absolutely dross football. I remember going to watch us against them and they scored in literally the first minute of the game. After that they just shut up shop. Some would say it was a professional performance, others would say it was an absolute borefest, and it was something they did every season hence them always having the best defence but least amount scored in the top 6 every season he was in charge Would mean a big overhaul of our squad to play how karanka sets his tactics and strategies. We're not big, strong or defensively solid enough. Bannan & Nando would absolutely hate having him in charge. We need to find someone with a good balance of all round tactics which was why Bruce was far more effective than jos who like karanka liked to ply ultra defensive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Can’t argue with his record. But I’d have concerns that he’s a bit of a prima Donna and could easily fall out with DC and walk. His style is also very very similar to CC. When we played Boro in the cup both sides just cancelled each other out with possession football. I think both Harris and Odubajo would be shackled under him. Like it or not, this side is currently built for a more simple but effective style of getting the ball into the final third as quickly as possible. A stendel or Karanka would need a lot of time and a few transfer windows to reshape the squad. If that is accepted then fine. But in terms of making an impact now someone like a Rowett or Monk would stand out for me as they have both done jobs with restrictions and got teams up there. Monks recent bad press would put me off him a bit though if we need value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sova Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I wouldn't mind him. Then again, I wouldn't mind Pulis either (awaits down votes). But I don't think we'll go for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, Beholder said: Karanka a ludicrous suggestion? I would say it's more ludicrous to say it's ludicrous. He's an experienced champ manager with a promotion on his CV. Keep out of the sun and drink plenty of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Westfield Owl said: Who? I could list a whole host - that in my opinion are better, in your opinion they may not. Hughton (possibly already rejected) Neill (Preston) Pearson Lee Johnson Jokanovic (I've only listed ones think would potentially be attainable). Like I've stated, I live close to Middlesbrough, 90% of my mates are Boro fans and match attenders, Karanka wasn't the messiah that he was made out to be - just because he has Real Madrid on his CV doesn't make him a great manager. Tactically awful, terrible substitutions at vital times, unable to alter games, plan A - if plan A fails revert to plan A. playing 1 up front against low table opposition at home (this one really wound them up). He did have great contacts regarding signings - all comments from my mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Andrew6666 said: I could list a whole host - that in my opinion are better, in your opinion they may not. Hughton (possibly already rejected) Neill (Preston) Pearson Lee Johnson Jokanovic (I've only listed ones think would potentially be attainable). Like I've stated, I live close to Middlesbrough, 90% of my mates are Boro fans and match attenders, Karanka wasn't the messiah that he was made out to be - just because he has Real Madrid on his CV doesn't make him a great manager. Tactically awful, terrible substitutions at vital times, unable to alter games, plan A - if plan A fails revert to plan A. playing 1 up front against low table opposition at home (this one really wound them up). He did have great contacts regarding signings - all comments from my mates. Not a chance Lee Johnson would leave Bristol City to come here, they have more clout than is without the FFP restrictions. Alex Neil would cost a bomb in compensation. Edited July 17, 2019 by Not Jon Newsome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, shezzas left peg said: Would mean a big overhaul of our squad to play how karanka sets his tactics and strategies. We're not big, strong or defensively solid enough. Bannan & Nando would absolutely hate having him in charge. We need to find someone with a good balance of all round tactics which was why Bruce was far more effective than jos who like karanka liked to ply ultra defensive football. Agree,we don't want someone coming in and ripping up whats been done over the last few months, one or two in and two or three out, but tactically we're nearly there, someone come in just a few tweaks and bingo.NO MAJOR UPHEAVAL NECESSARY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, gizowl said: Agree,we don't want someone coming in and ripping up whats been done over the last few months, one or two in and two or three out, but tactically we're nearly there, someone come in just a few tweaks and bingo.NO MAJOR UPHEAVAL NECESSARY. Exactly my point bud, we need someone with a similar tactical style to Bruce, a rounded and balanced one, as thats the sort of sqaud/players we have. You can't suddenly hope bannan can grow a foot and turn into a big ball playing midfield monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 He has been rumbled and latest efforts are poor. His continental style is well found out now and clubs have learned how to play against it. Has not done well recently and was always one game away from cracking at Middlesboro. Think Wednesday would be bigger test and find him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Moz_Wednesday said: I’m not too sure. My girlfriend & her family are all Boro season ticket holders & I don’t think that he’s the man for us. Very stubborn & wants to do things his way or no way...I think he would clash a lot with Chansiri. I also remember the time he walked out on Boro. His football there in his first full season was great but strangely the season they got promoted it was dreadful to watch. It got even worse in the premier league & even more defensive. Who gives a poo, they got promoted. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, shezzas left peg said: Exactly my point bud, we need someone with a similar tactical style to Bruce, a rounded and balanced one, as thats the sort of sqaud/players we have. You can't suddenly hope bannan can grow a foot and turn into a big ball playing midfield monster. We most definitely do not have a balanced squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Can’t argue with his record. But I’d have concerns that he’s a bit of a prima Donna and could easily fall out with DC and walk. His style is also very very similar to CC. When we played Boro in the cup both sides just cancelled each other out with possession football. I think both Harris and Odubajo would be shackled under him. Like it or not, this side is currently built for a more simple but effective style of getting the ball into the final third as quickly as possible. A stendel or Karanka would need a lot of time and a few transfer windows to reshape the squad. If that is accepted then fine. But in terms of making an impact now someone like a Rowett or Monk would stand out for me as they have both done jobs with restrictions and got teams up there. Monks recent bad press would put me off him a bit though if we need value for money. I always thought he was more direct than Carlos? I couldn't stand anymore of that side to side and back to the goalie crap he served up. Edited July 17, 2019 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Didn’t he walk out on Boro and then come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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