Walt Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, alleycat said: The statement says former staff so I think we can take it that they are no longer employed by SWFC. Whether Bruce claims for constructive dismissal or not (and he won't, as it's not) has absolutely no relevance to whether we can employ a new manager or not. We can. Some people are thinking way too much imo. Any business needs a manager. Ours quit, we need a new one. Can’t possibly see how employing a new manager for the vacant managers position could possibly be contrived as owt else. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Typical, comes out during the only period I had my back turned. I believe there are serious issues to be addressed here that will see all former employees, Mike Ashley, and Newcastle United punished accordingly. It’s the fans of Newcastle you have to feel sorry for, with their proud club being dragged through the mud by alleged dodgy geezers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Not just the compensation regarding our former employees. This is a deliberate act of attrition against our business. Benitez was engaged in contract talks from the post Christmas period. the on going story was a little further to go. Incredibly late in the day Ashley left Benitez high and dry without any agreement; He then compounded the issue by tapping up the Bruce team, so late in the day that our planned acquisitions were completely usurped. The issue of compensation is far more complicated than that of compensation the unintended consequence of Ashleys actions has been corrosive on our plans for the coming season, the damage is both considerable and inestimable. We need/demand fair treatment in line with the FFP that the authorities are constantly banging on about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mort AMB Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said: How does that stop em flying to China.? There may be legals to sort out,when they get back, but it won't stop them going. Would be interesting to see the date the visas were issued thou, suppose to take 3 days min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, A12owl said: Can you name them so we can cross them off our shopping lists As long as he doesn't own any part of Asda, Tesco, Argos or Amazon I'm alright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Spencerowl said: Take them to the cleaners DC we’re all behind you Spot on mate , screw em for every penny . Totally unprofessionsl way to conduct business and a complete lack of respect and courtesy shown to Sheffield wednesday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 For clarity as I think people are over thinking this. The statement says "former" staff so 100% they're no longer employees. (regardless of how they left) so that puts to bed the theory that DC didn't accept their resignations. Even if (and he won't) Bruce decided to claim constructive dismissal it 100% doesn't stop us getting another manager or head coach or whatever title the club want to give him. The issue will be around the other Steves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, A12owl said: Can you name them so we can cross them off our shopping lists Apart from Sports Direct, House of Fraser, Debenhams, Evans Cycles, Agent Provocateur.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 What is the difference between a player and a coach. We can't send Leeds 10m and say we've signed Roofe from them. So how can Newcastle do this to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, bigrbuk said: Apart from Sports Direct, House of Fraser, Debenhams, Evans Cycles, Agent Provocateur.... Well that's this afternoon's shopping trip ruined, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzamk2 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Sick of seeing Bruce's fat ugly fizzogg now. He turns my stomach. Like puking up after a curry night and having to keep walking past it for a week. Newcastle fans don't want this as much as we didn't want it. I just hope they give him as much greif as we would and they get rid of Bruce, his cronies and Ashley sooner rather than later and we can all move on from this whole seedy episode. Up the Owls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Nixon really is full of himself isn’t he? ”at last someone who understands........ my criptic messages because I’m guessing like the rest of you “ To be fair to him, he called the compo issue for the assistants about a week ago. He also correctly called the 4m compo for bruce when every other media outlet was saying 1m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, A12owl said: I was interested in the first bit which said that they had learnt from item released by NUFc. I would guess that's announcing them as their staff when compensation hasn't been agreed yet, so aren't entitled to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneatonowl1 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: Chansiri has money ,Now this is different ,He will feel its an insult against him and the club ,Rightly so cause Bruce and Ashley as much grief as possible .injunction high court action ,Get em done chairman we are 100% behind you . This 100%. Was saying this the other day. Chansiri / Thais are very much big on respect and he’ll take this as a massive personal thing. He’s got money and I believe will take it a lot further. If Ashley thought he’s stubborn I reckon he’s about to meet someone who will take it up a notch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Rogers said: I hope those players aren’t the crocks we had on loan And what's the point if we're getting another manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Uncle Mort AMB said: Would be interesting to see the date the visas were issued thou, suppose to take 3 days min. Good call is that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Nixon really is full of himself isn’t he? ”at last someone who understands........ my criptic messages because I’m guessing like the rest of you “ Also Nixon misread and failed to understand it. Agnew & Clemence compo not a considerable matter. The damage to our pre season planning strategy most definitely is ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Mr. Chow said: And what's the point if we're getting another manager. Ritchie or Gayle and $4m please Maybe Mego is advising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, camffiti said: Would appointing a new manager affect any court case, in this scenario? Potentially: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/palace-win-injunction-against-bruce-9201022.html Quote Jordan is holding out for what he considers to be appropriate compensation – around £1m – for Bruce's services. In the meantime Jordan faces a potential legal minefield if he wants to recruit a permanent successor to Bruce. An appointment while the former Manchester United captain is still attached to the club, even on "gardening leave", might constitute constructive dismissal for Bruce, legal experts told The Independent yesterday. If so, Bruce would be free to leave before August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, uɐıɹɐqɯıɹ⅁ said: Potentially: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/palace-win-injunction-against-bruce-9201022.html Apparently now Bruce has another job he can’t claim constructive dismay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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