prowl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: Maybe people can see why Bruce has left? He’s said on a number of occasions he needs to wheel and deal, we’ve got too many strikers and an unbalanced squad. But he can’t do this when we put these valuations on players. This summer we’ve seemingly had offers for both Rhodes and Joao, a great opportunity to raise funds and help with FFP whilst more importantly giving our manager more room to do his job. But we’ve rejected both offers. It must be incredibly frustrating for a manager. What manager? You've just said he can go with all his staff on the cheap. Now you want a fire sale of the playing staff. Have you car booted the goalposts yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) People can't wait to knock the chairman what if the club's both rate joao around 2 million mark let's wait for the full story before we knock bits of the chairman Edited July 16, 2019 by bladeshater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: Thats from April what’s your point? It was Saturday evening after the Lincoln game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basegreenowl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: This. Joao has had his time now in my opinion. No manager could get him to play well enough consistently. He's one of many players in his position and we could do with raising some more funds through the club. Yes we'll miss some of his attributes but hopefully we could make sure we bring in a player with pace and strength in place of him. I had him valued at £7 million but there's ways around a fee. He might not be quite what we need but could prove very useful for someone else so let's get it rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, toppOwl said: It was Saturday evening after the Lincoln game. Matias did well then to play in that game... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: If it’s brentford they can afford to pay also. As can Huddersfield, the market isn’t flat for them. I could see him scoring loads for Brentford. London appealing also Its more to do with their model of buy them cheap, play them often, sell them high. 40% of 15-20m plus s decent upfront fee is a significant return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 If we managed to rake in 7m from Bruce and Joao I wouldn’t be unhappy with that. But I would be disappointed to never see João on the pitch for us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 some people on here will use any story or rumour to a turn a thread into a chansiri bashing exercise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wherever he goes, his new Manager will have to work to get a full shift out of him, something nobody at S6 has been able to do.. He has got to 'man-up' for whoever he plays for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 So many people undervaluing not just Joao, but his bonkers the transfer market is. You can’t replace him for £4-£5m in today’s market, if he played 20 games straight and scored 10+ goals all of a sudden players like him go for £15m+. It’s bloody stupid, but that’s the reality of the transfer market now. I remember lots on here being happy with the Antonio figure, I said goal scoring midfielders especially with pace should command £5m+ and that was before fees got ridiculous. Bored of us getting our pants pulled down over transfer fees. Him attributes and minutes to goals stats the last 18 months make him worth a hell of a lot more than people would be happy with on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, jonesy87shef said: So many people undervaluing not just Joao, but his bonkers the transfer market is. You can’t replace him for £4-£5m in today’s market, if he played 20 games straight and scored 10+ goals all of a sudden players like him go for £15m+. It’s bloody stupid, but that’s the reality of the transfer market now. I remember lots on here being happy with the Antonio figure, I said goal scoring midfielders especially with pace should command £5m+ and that was before fees got ridiculous. Bored of us getting our pants pulled down over transfer fees. Him attributes and minutes to goals stats the last 18 months make him worth a hell of a lot more than people would be happy with on here. The club were clever signing him on an extended deal which he was happy to sign the balls in our court on his worth to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, PARKOWL said: some people on here will use any story or rumour to a turn a thread into a chansiri bashing exercise Likewise others will use any story/rumour to tongue punch his ar*sehole. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Big clubs don’t sell their top scoring players, in their mid 20s, capped and under contract for 2/3m quid. Leave that to the dingles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 This is what drives me mad about DC though. How has he ran a football club for 4 years and still not grasped the concept of selling players to make money? Particularly infuriating when we have to sell the ground in order to balance the books, worsened by his nonsensical approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebneeb Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, StudentOwl said: Joao is exactly the sort of player that will kick on once we sell him... and I also think that makes him exactly the sort of player we should cash in on before it's too late. It's a shame he hasn't (and genuinely believe won't) reach his full potential here, but there's a few million to be made on his sale. Can see there being something in this, and we could make the best of this. Agree with this. Cash in now to make a profit, re-invest on someone younger and hungrier, and include a sell-on clause to potentially get a bonus windfall in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, gurujuan said: Disappointing, but was underused by the previous manager Unfortunately we all say he is underused when he has just come on and scored, but we also say that he is overused when he starts a game and looks tired out before half time. If somebody could get him over that and get him playing more consistently he could be a top quality player. Gary Rowett maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Get 4---5m for him get rid,could have been good,too lazy,too sulky mever been same since his tooth came out...... Edited July 16, 2019 by DIPPS_S.W.F.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Anybody ever thought we don't have 100% ownership rights...merely a percentage. Could even be a low percentage...whose his agent, where did we get him from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazads Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: Another example of our chairman having no grasp of valuations. Joao has shown no consistency wherever he's been and his workrate and application is questionable. How can be valued at £8m? I would think £4m tops. We need to offload some of our forwards and if he doesn't want to play for us let him go, £3m to £4m DC. madine 6 mill...who would have thought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, 1993swfc said: Oil McBurnie is 23 and scored 22 goals in just 1 season. Joao has scored 25 goals in 4 years and is 25 year old ..and that's why Swansea value McBurnie in excess of 15mil. Joao still worth 7 or 8, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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