Minton Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Sell him for 3-4 million but insist on a 30-40% sell on clause would be the best would could hope for I think. If you think any buying team will accept a 30-40% sell-on clause, you must be on crack. A more likely figure would be 10%, 15% at the very most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Explains the meeting the pair had the other day. Chansiri really needs to learn it’s completely normal to sell players. If he doesn’t understand it, Football really isn’t for him. We have six strikers. Please see some sense DC. 8 million is a ridiculous valuation. It’s madness. A squad player like Joao... £8m? Crazy. This is the reason the only player he’s sold in the last 4 years is Jack Hunt and also the reason he’s had to sell the ground to himself for stupid money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, owlse said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9512616/transfer-news-live-de-ligt-juventus-coutinho-liverpool-newcastle/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1563275710 EXCLUSIVE: SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY striker Lucas Joao is set to hand in a transfer request after the club rejected bids from two Championship rivals. The Owls turned down offers from the unknown teams because they did not meet their £8million valuation. But the Portuguese ace, 25, wants out of Hillsborough where he has spent four seasons, scoring 25 goals from 114 appearances – but 61 of those have been from the bench. A source close to Joao said: “He wants to move on to a new challenge. He is disappointed the club have not allowed him to talk to other teams and if there is no solution soon he will be putting in a transfer request. “Joao believes he is being overvalued out of a move.” Joao joined Wednesday from Portuguese club Nacional on a four-year deal – but signed an extension that ties him to the managerless Yorkshire team until the summer of 2021. This may all be true, but it reads like the Bruce situation has reminded the mainstream media, that SWFC still exists ... I better have a look on OT to see what's going on *sees random picture of Chansiri with someone who looks a bit like Joao* *sees the Rhodes fred, with OTers flouncing about Chansiri not 'snapping their hands off for half the price'* Will tomorrow bring a new Henfleet exclusive? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, unkastav said: Which by the way is the BEST FILM OF ALL TIME Pay me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Move him on. Anyone not committed to improving Sheffield Wednesday can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Explains the meeting the pair had the other day. Chansiri really needs to learn it’s completely normal to sell players. If he doesn’t understand it, Football really isn’t for him. We have six strikers. Please see some sense DC. 8 million is a ridiculous valuation. I don't think it is. Hugill went for 10, Swansea just turned down 15 for McBurnie. With a little more consistency, Joao would be worth double the 8mil DC is holding out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, camffiti said: This may all be true, but it reads like the Bruce situation has reminded the mainstream media, that SWFC still exists ... I better have a look on OT to see what's going on *sees random picture of Chansiri with someone who looks a bit like Joao* *sees the Rhodes fred, with OTers flouncing about Chansiri not 'snapping their hands off for half the price'* Will tomorrow bring a new Henfleet exclusive? Going on recent posts it will probably be a Zola exclusive to give us nightmares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Would Joao believe it! brummie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Minton said: If you think any buying team will accept a 30-40% sell-on clause, you must be on crack. A more likely figure would be 10%, 15% at the very most. Depends how cheap we are willing to let him go for. We say its 7 million or 3 million with a 30% sell on fee you would be surprised how many would accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, The Night-Owl said: Going on recent posts it will probably be a Zola exclusive to give us nightmares Zola & Henfleet dream team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: It’s madness. A squad player like Joao... £8m? Crazy. This is the reason the only player he’s sold in the last 4 years is Jack Hunt and also the reason he’s had to sell the ground to himself for stupid money. Maybe people can see why Bruce has left? He’s said on a number of occasions he needs to wheel and deal, we’ve got too many strikers and an unbalanced squad. But he can’t do this when we put these valuations on players. This summer we’ve seemingly had offers for both Rhodes and Joao, a great opportunity to raise funds and help with FFP whilst more importantly giving our manager more room to do his job. But we’ve rejected both offers. It must be incredibly frustrating for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 If ever there was a player that needs a sell on clause. He will move and become a star. The Wednesday way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, wilyfox said: I don't think it is. Hugill went for 10, Swansea just turned down 15 for McBurnie. With a little more consistency, Joao would be worth double the 8mil DC is holding out for. But Swansea and Preston aren’t hampered by FFP and don’t have a squad which needs evolving and trimming. 6 strikers is ridiculous. Take what you can for Joao and use the money to add to the midfield and wide areas where we lack quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ok, can go for me. £8m optimistic but anything £3-5m dependent on sell on clause could be considered. . Frustrating player, has all the attributes but doesn't seem to grasp the work hard in every game concept. If he wants to be a regular starter in any championship team, he's going to have to learn to graft. If not, a move back to Europe best for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, pazowl55 said: Depends how cheap we are willing to let him go for. We say its 7 million or 3 million with a 30% sell on fee you would be surprised how many would accept. Well a) why would we take the risk of taking a substantially lower initial figure in the hope that *maybe* he'll get a mega money move somewhere in the future (despite us not thinking he is first team material and that he isn't developing)? If we sold him for 3 million instead of 7, we would need him to sell for 12 million to make it back, even if it was a 30% clause. and b) Man Utd only managed a 25% sell-on clause with Zaha, and that was with them taking a 7 million hit on what they'd paid to Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 £5m is the absolute minimum I'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Would Joao believe it! He doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I think he is potentially a very good striker - had we used him properly (and his attitude / application been better) he could well be an £8 million player. As it is, half that with a sell on clause is probably realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4-5 million is the maximum we can expect and we may well have been offered that from the unnamed clubs. His first few games for us he was unplayable until losing the tooth. Has been very intermittent with his performances since then. Some days he looks like the player we’d hoped for then others was a passenger. Can’t really carry anyone on a trimmed down squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I stopped reading at "a source close to Joao" - total and utter fabricated nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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