runningaround Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 might be in isolation or small minority but wouldn't it be refreshing to get an up and coming boss? done it a few years now also. fed up of merry go round gaffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 What happened to that up and coming manager at Ipswich? He ain't up and coming anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said: What happened to that up and coming manager at Ipswich? He ain't up and coming anymore. True. But to be fair to Hurst he took on a poor job there, very bad career choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Peacenocchio said: What happened to that up and coming manager at Ipswich? He ain't up and coming anymore. In fairness Ipswich under Hurst was a very different situation. Not like big Mick or anyone after Hurst got anything decent out of them. Personally I think Hurst made a shocking decision taking that job, some jobs are just poisoned chalices Manu after Fergie, Newcastle anytime, Chelsea most of the time, Sunderland last three times over spring to mind. I think he'd do well with a balanced group of players like we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, unkastav said: True. But to be fair to Hurst he took on a poor job there, very bad career choice Agree. I was being facetious really. It's a risk both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I'd be worried, frankly. Done a great job at Lincoln but hasn't managed above League Two level yet and big clubs are a different matter, there's no guarantee that they'll succeed. How many "up and coming" managers at lower league sides have been a success at clubs higher up - compared to the number who've failed? Are highly paid players with PL experience going to command respect for an unknown guy? Look at Hurst at Ipswich, Jones at Stoke, great at their previous clubs but they did nothing at their new ones. We've been there before taking a punt on managers who had brief success at smaller clubs that turned out to be flash in the pans - Wilson, Jewell, Turner, plus Sturrock and Laws to an extent. Obviously somebody will cite Wilder as an exception but he didn't move straight from a lower league outfit to the Championship, he did well in the lower leagues and then built his way up from L1, again no guarantee that he'd be a success at a bigger club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, alanharper said: I'd be worried, frankly. Done a great job at Lincoln but hasn't managed above League Two level yet and big clubs are a different matter, there's no guarantee that they'll succeed. How many "up and coming" managers at lower league sides have been a success at clubs higher up - compared to the number who've failed? Are highly paid players with PL experience going to command respect for an unknown guy? Look at Hurst at Ipswich, Jones at Stoke, great at their previous clubs but they did nothing at their new ones. We've been there before taking a punt on managers who had brief success at smaller clubs that turned out to be flash in the pans - Wilson, Jewell, Turner, plus Sturrock and Laws to an extent. Obviously somebody will cite Wilder as an exception but he didn't move straight from a lower league outfit to the Championship, he did well in the lower leagues and then built his way up from L1, again no guarantee that he'd be a success at a bigger club. Some of the managers who took us on after we were relegated from Premiership did not have much of a chance the team were starved of funds and we were run as second rate outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 It’s a risk but he’s got promotion all over his cv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGLE75 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Quist said: Some of the managers who took us on after we were relegated from Premiership did not have much of a chance the team were starved of funds and we were run as second rate outfit. You mean like Wilder? I think we need someone who knows the pyramid and can find the odd bargain from lower down. Plus his career to date has been promotion and more promotions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Looks like Beswetherik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbottom14 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 If we were going to take a risk on an unknown I’d rather it be Barnsley’s manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, peterbottom14 said: If we were going to take a risk on an unknown I’d rather it be Barnsley’s manager. Not on God's green earth would the Dingles do business with us after the Winnall deal. That said, it all depends on what's in the bloke's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 it's two of them isn't it? so would that be Cowli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, marshy said: Not on God's green earth would the Dingles do business with us after the Winnall deal. That said, it all depends on what's in the bloke's contract. Straight swap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The progress we made in recent months shows we needed an experienced manager. Think we still do. Don't want a rookie ripping it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, marshy said: Not on God's green earth would the Dingles do business with us after the Winnall deal. That said, it all depends on what's in the bloke's contract. He has refused to sign a contract extension at Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Gutted about Hughton, but I can see why he's allegedly turned it down. Why give up the garden leave cash for doing nowt. Sit tight till the Prem start to fire managers later in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dukeries Owl said: He has refused to sign a contract extension at Barnsley. He'll be 1/10 on in 5 minutes now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dukeries Owl said: He has refused to sign a contract extension at Barnsley. Has he? interesting if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Philb125 said: In fairness Ipswich under Hurst was a very different situation. Not like big Mick or anyone after Hurst got anything decent out of them. Personally I think Hurst made a shocking decision taking that job, some jobs are just poisoned chalices Manu after Fergie, Newcastle anytime, Chelsea most of the time, Sunderland last three times over spring to mind. I think he'd do well with a balanced group of players like we have. Some potential managers may well be looking at us and thinking we too are a bit of a poisoned chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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