bradowl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, davey_wells said: Rowett comes with an absoute army of his own backroom staff and performance analysts. I gather he was on a big wage at Stoke too. I reckon he'd be the expensive option. Seems to have had his rep tarnished significantly at Stoke - otherwise he'd have been the obvious one to get in - yet I'd still be OK with it, he's earned enough credit in the bank in prior jobs to be a serious option. Personally, I think Holloway would be a great fit with Bullen staying on too. Rowett is only 45 so is not what some fans would call "been around a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Kidneys Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, paulrs said: I say this every time we go through this new manager rigmarole, we always do better when we make ambitious appointments. Jack Charlton and Ron Atkinson the best examples. You could arguably add Megson and Sturrock to that list - they went direct from Premier League jobs to managing us in the bottom half of League One - and also Bruce, who despite being a duplicitous snake had a major impact on the team in his short time. These are the most ambitious appointments we’ve made in my time supporting the club, and all were successful in the sense they left the club in a better position than they found it. Employ a journeyman like Luhukay or Pleat, or a cheap option like Eustace, Shreeves, Yorath or Turner, and it pretty much always doesn’t go well. Stuart Gray is probably the one exception, an underwhelming appointment that turned out pretty good, but otherwise the general rule holds up. With this in mind I think the very best use of whatever available funds we have would be to invest in the best possible manager we can find. Be that Hughton, Allardyce, Van Bronckhorst or whoever. We haven’t got time to wait for someone to learn on the job, we need promotion desperately. Once we get that cash injection maybe we can start thinking more long term but for now it should be all about maximising our promotion chances in the next couple of years. So please please Let’s be ambitious - history tells us it’s the best way for Wednesday to be. Excellent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hitcat said: How will Holloway unite the fan base when half us sane ones don't want him? More like “boring ones “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, paulrs said: I say this every time we go through this new manager rigmarole, we always do better when we make ambitious appointments. Jack Charlton and Ron Atkinson the best examples. You could arguably add Megson and Sturrock to that list - they went direct from Premier League jobs to managing us in the bottom half of League One - and also Bruce, who despite being a duplicitous snake had a major impact on the team in his short time. These are the most ambitious appointments we’ve made in my time supporting the club, and all were successful in the sense they left the club in a better position than they found it. Employ a journeyman like Luhukay or Pleat, or a cheap option like Eustace, Shreeves, Yorath or Turner, and it pretty much always doesn’t go well. Stuart Gray is probably the one exception, an underwhelming appointment that turned out pretty good, but otherwise the general rule holds up. With this in mind I think the very best use of whatever available funds we have would be to invest in the best possible manager we can find. Be that Hughton, Allardyce, Van Bronckhorst or whoever. We haven’t got time to wait for someone to learn on the job, we need promotion desperately. Once we get that cash injection maybe we can start thinking more long term but for now it should be all about maximising our promotion chances in the next couple of years. So please please Let’s be ambitious - history tells us it’s the best way for Wednesday to be. Absolutely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, paulrs said: I say this every time we go through this new manager rigmarole, we always do better when we make ambitious appointments. Jack Charlton and Ron Atkinson the best examples. You could arguably add Megson and Sturrock to that list - they went direct from Premier League jobs to managing us in the bottom half of League One - and also Bruce, who despite being a duplicitous snake had a major impact on the team in his short time. These are the most ambitious appointments we’ve made in my time supporting the club, and all were successful in the sense they left the club in a better position than they found it. Employ a journeyman like Luhukay or Pleat, or a cheap option like Eustace, Shreeves, Yorath or Turner, and it pretty much always doesn’t go well. Stuart Gray is probably the one exception, an underwhelming appointment that turned out pretty good, but otherwise the general rule holds up. With this in mind I think the very best use of whatever available funds we have would be to invest in the best possible manager we can find. Be that Hughton, Allardyce, Van Bronckhorst or whoever. We haven’t got time to wait for someone to learn on the job, we need promotion desperately. Once we get that cash injection maybe we can start thinking more long term but for now it should be all about maximising our promotion chances in the next couple of years. So please please Let’s be ambitious - history tells us it’s the best way for Wednesday to be. Fair points there mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, erowl said: Please don't anyone suggest we go from appointing a proven championship manager on £2m per year that has a couple of promotions to the PL on his CV to a guy (Lee Bullen) who has never held the post of permanent manager yet? Surely DC is not stupid enough to do this is he? We've just trousered £4m compensation for the turncoat so looking for someone of similar managerial status should be a priority and that's what I think DC will do. No point now looking for the cheap option. Honestly believe D.C. will be doing exactly as you say Bit of apathy runs amongst the fanbase in my opinion, so always get the ones who look for the negative outcomes and convince themselves it’s happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, paulrs said: I say this every time we go through this new manager rigmarole, we always do better when we make ambitious appointments. Jack Charlton and Ron Atkinson the best examples. You could arguably add Megson and Sturrock to that list - they went direct from Premier League jobs to managing us in the bottom half of League One - and also Bruce, who despite being a duplicitous snake had a major impact on the team in his short time. These are the most ambitious appointments we’ve made in my time supporting the club, and all were successful in the sense they left the club in a better position than they found it. Employ a journeyman like Luhukay or Pleat, or a cheap option like Eustace, Shreeves, Yorath or Turner, and it pretty much always doesn’t go well. Stuart Gray is probably the one exception, an underwhelming appointment that turned out pretty good, but otherwise the general rule holds up. With this in mind I think the very best use of whatever available funds we have would be to invest in the best possible manager we can find. Be that Hughton, Allardyce, Van Bronckhorst or whoever. We haven’t got time to wait for someone to learn on the job, we need promotion desperately. Once we get that cash injection maybe we can start thinking more long term but for now it should be all about maximising our promotion chances in the next couple of years. So please please Let’s be ambitious - history tells us it’s the best way for Wednesday to be. Great post apart from Allardyce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: Great post apart from Allardyce. Allardyce has a good record st this level and it wouldn’t be beyond him to get us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, paulrs said: I say this every time we go through this new manager rigmarole, we always do better when we make ambitious appointments. Jack Charlton and Ron Atkinson the best examples. You could arguably add Megson and Sturrock to that list - they went direct from Premier League jobs to managing us in the bottom half of League One - and also Bruce, who despite being a duplicitous snake had a major impact on the team in his short time. These are the most ambitious appointments we’ve made in my time supporting the club, and all were successful in the sense they left the club in a better position than they found it. Employ a journeyman like Luhukay or Pleat, or a cheap option like Eustace, Shreeves, Yorath or Turner, and it pretty much always doesn’t go well. Stuart Gray is probably the one exception, an underwhelming appointment that turned out pretty good, but otherwise the general rule holds up. With this in mind I think the very best use of whatever available funds we have would be to invest in the best possible manager we can find. Be that Hughton, Allardyce, Van Bronckhorst or whoever. We haven’t got time to wait for someone to learn on the job, we need promotion desperately. Once we get that cash injection maybe we can start thinking more long term but for now it should be all about maximising our promotion chances in the next couple of years. So please please Let’s be ambitious - history tells us it’s the best way for Wednesday to be. You forgot to mention Brian Laws, probably a cheap option bringing him in from Scunny but did very well in his first season finishing just outside play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, bradowl said: You forgot to mention Brian Laws, probably a cheap option bringing him in from Scunny but did very well in his first season finishing just outside play offs. Reasonable shout mate, but I'd say Laws left us pretty much where he found us - fighting relegation. Admittedly we had one decent season under him and did the double over the pigs. I think the fact we're discussing that one season under Laws as some kind of success perfectly illustrates the lack of ambition we sometimes suffer from. I mean, we finished what, 9th? Mainly due to a late surge rather than a sustained promotion campaign. And a club like Wednesday is seeing that as a highlight. It's pretty embarrassing really. Yes we hardly had any money to spend back then, but since we were last in the Prem we've seen the likes of Bolton, Portsmouth, Wigan, the pigs (twice), Hull (three times), Burnley (twice), Blackpool, Swansea, Bournemouth, Huddersfield and Cardiff (twice) all promoted out of the Championship. All significantly smaller clubs than Wednesday and most of those sides achieved it without spending millions. It really shouldn't be as hard as we're making it for ourselves, and if we thought bigger and got a quality manager in it would be the best possible start IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just put a little bet on Pullis getting the job just so I can earn something if the worst thing happens. Please let it be someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Just put a little bet on Pullis getting the job just so I can earn something if the worst thing happens. Please let it be someone else Same got a hunch if Pulis wants it he’ll get it , heard whispers he’s spoke to the Boss man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Bullen pretty much even money for the job, with the rest out to 7/1 and beyond. Really, really hope we don’t appoint him. Love the bloke and he would make a great assistant at some point, I’m sure. I think we need to go high profile now. Edited July 18, 2019 by Castleford Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 So Bullen is today's favourite, after Zola yesterday and Hughton the day before... wonder who it;ll be tomorrow?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Why are people acting like we have lost a god like manager.... It was steve bruce He turned the team around and did a reyt good job? My nan could have turned that team around when Jos left, she would have started by putting westwood back in between the sticks. When exactly did we do good? We won 6 in 11 against absolutely garbage teams. We couldn't beat rotherham or millwall.... we couldnt put reading to the sword at Hillsborough. As soon as we came up against half decent opposition we faded away. 2 wins 3 draws 3 losses in the last 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, paulrs said: So Bullen is today's favourite, after Zola yesterday and Hughton the day before... wonder who it;ll be tomorrow?! David Hockaday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ferkorf said: Why are people acting like we have lost a god like manager.... It was steve bruce He turned the team around and did a reyt good job? My nan could have turned that team around when Jos left, she would have started by putting westwood back in between the sticks. When exactly did we do good? We won 6 in 11 against absolutely garbage teams. We couldn't beat rotherham or millwall.... we couldnt put reading to the sword at Hillsborough. As soon as we came up against half decent opposition we faded away. 2 wins 3 draws 3 losses in the last 8. Is your nan still available? We seem to have an opening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, paulrs said: So Bullen is today's favourite, after Zola yesterday and Hughton the day before... wonder who it;ll be tomorrow?! Tony Pulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Chris Coleman is now 9/1 on sky, who put 50p and a bag of peanuts on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, marcx666 said: Chris Coleman is now 9/1 on sky, who put 50p and a bag of peanuts on him? Another that will want the job and likely asking for Chansiris number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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