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3 minutes ago, Night King said:

He’s at Schalke 

Well sh*t...

 

Ridiculous that he's even listed then let alone 25/1

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My last image of Bullen as a caretaker was him as good as in tears, virtually pleading verbally for DC to get his man following our getting stuffed at home to Burton. I think he's happy to coach, but being the boss is completely different.

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41 minutes ago, swfc-dan said:

We have to appoint someone who's style of play and formation will fit with what we have. Hughton obvious first choice, but unlikely we get him. If not we should go for someone succesful in lower leagues or abroad, who's wanting to make a name in England. Championship teams are attractive jobs for foreign managers, especially if we have a chance of reaching the prem in a year or two.

 

Must get someone young and hungry though imo, not a has been looking for a last pay day. Why not go for a German coach? The style of play clearly translates well from Germany to here, shown by all the recent successful ones.  Otherwise gamble on a top ex English pro wanting to get into management? Gerrard and Lampard worked out for their clubs so far.

 

Need to fit the manager around the players, not the other way around. Someone who likes fast, forward passing football, not slow possession dross.

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19 minutes ago, marshy said:

My last image of Bullen as a caretaker was him as good as in tears, virtually pleading verbally for DC to get his man following our getting stuffed at home to Burton. I think he's happy to coach, but being the boss is completely different.

Were you in a coma last season?

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Unless someone’s odds go in to something ridiculous like 1/6 then don’t pay attention 

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39 minutes ago, swfc-dan said:

Need to fit the manager around the players, not the other way around. Someone who likes fast, forward passing football, not slow possession dross.

That feels like a very short term approach. Why not choose someone with a clear vision of how to move the club forward over the next 5 years (something we don’t currently seem to have) and let them re-shape the squad where possible to achieve this?

 

Also, no reason why quite possession football cannot be balanced with forward passing and high tempo. If not, might as well give the job to Pulis and suffer the consequences.

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10 minutes ago, mcmigo said:

Were you in a coma last season?

I completely take your point, but, I still stand by the comments I made about him ultimately being a better coach right now. Now learning along side a good manager is a different kettle of fish. Plus, out of everyone, I'd hate us to turn on him if it went boobies up 

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15 minutes ago, Steve Down South said:

That feels like a very short term approach. Why not choose someone with a clear vision of how to move the club forward over the next 5 years (something we don’t currently seem to have) and let them re-shape the squad where possible to achieve this?

 

Also, no reason why quite possession football cannot be balanced with forward passing and high tempo. If not, might as well give the job to Pulis and suffer the consequences.

 

We don't financially have five years in all probability

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1 minute ago, modboy said:

 

We don't financially have five years in all probability

Pulis it is then!

 

I’m not suggesting we should be happy with Championship football for next 5 years, just that we need a clear direction for the club that would see us established in the Premier League within 5 years. 

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It appears every candidate is worse than what we've lost unfortunately. Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat 

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8 minutes ago, modboy said:

It appears every candidate is worse than what we've lost unfortunately. Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat 

I think what Bruce did, was to stabilise things when he arrived, I don’t think he brought a new dimension to our play. That’s not to knock the job he did, and let’s not forget Bullen’s role in that, but as long as we learn the lessons from that and look to keep some continuity. It really doesn’t have to be another Bruce clone, as long as the new guy doesn’t start ripping things apart. 

I really didn’t get the Jos appointment, it was obvious he ticked no boxes. If we can avoid that type of appointment, it doesn’t matter to me whether the new guy is British, or has championship experience, as long as he can work with the players that we have.

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1 hour ago, modboy said:

It appears every candidate is worse than what we've lost unfortunately. Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat 

 

Agree with this.

 

When we replaced Jos we could have replaced him with basically anyone and it was better than what we had before. The problem we’ve got here is DC got the perfect man in Bruce, now he’s gone where do you go from here? It ain’t going to be easy. 

 

For me I would do my best to get a young up and coming boss, I’d go for Arteta or GVB but would they come? 

 

I feel for DC here because he’s got his work cut out and probably can’t win. 

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1 hour ago, modboy said:

It appears every candidate is worse than what we've lost unfortunately. Hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat 

Worse apart from hopefully the next candidate won’t be a turdfaced, lying, 2 timing, fat, bentnosed, cabbage faced, Mrs doubtfire lookalike, 2 hat 

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Just had a look on oddschecker...nothing to catch the eye...

But I noticed last week Bruce opened at 20/1 Newcastle job and quckly went to 1/25...anyhow now it is confirmed, over half bets placed on prem relegation today are on Newcastle :biggrin:...and odds cut to 11/4 from 5/1. Don't think many have confidence.

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Hughton or GVB, of those mentioned, and I have a notion that Paul Hurst could turn out to be a decent coach. Granted, his only job at this level, with Ipswich, didn’t turn out well, so only really a hunch. I can remember reading an article about him, saying how highly he was rated, and might one day be part of the England set up. He apparently holds the top coaching licence, a coach can earn in Europe. He did have outstanding success prior to the Ipswich job, albeit at a lower level. As I said, it’s just a hunch, on the limited evidence of managing at this level, you wouldn’t really offer him a job

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I am going to throw a very random name out there for manager. Domènec Torrent Font the current New York City FC manager he is 56 years old and been a manager for 24 years. They play with the same style of play as Man City. Think he has the experience we need and plays hard pressing attacking football.

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Bullen said that the players have been kept to the fundamentals put in place. So who from that long list can carry on these same fundamentals which Bruce had put in place? Can not see a total move away from this. 

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Just made a promise to myself not to look at the bookies odds again. Seems to be a carpet bomb approach ATM and there are way too many undesirables making the list.

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Timing, and our financial situation, determine we don’t need one of those managers who feels it’s essential to work with his own players There is no point whatsoever to bring in somebody like that, certainly not now anyway. A coach who can work with, and improve the players we have, is a much better bet.

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