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2 minutes ago, apswfcowl said:

Photo-shopped that - Bullen wouldn't be seen dead in a red and white striped shirt!

 

How did I miss that? 

 

I'll have to update the pic later

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 Caretaker is temporary, likely to be replaced at any time and more than likely sooner rather than later.  A permanent appointment carries more authority, ok it might not be forever but he's going to be around a good while. If things are going wrong I don't think the caretaker carries as much authority as a proper manager.

 

It's not a problem while things are going great but if we hit a bad patch it might.

 

I'm happy for Lee to carry on a bit longer but at some stage in the near future we need to either give it to him properly or find a new manager. 

 

Once we have a permanent manager we can fill out any gaps in the management structure.

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4 hours ago, Ferkorf said:

But no matter what manager we had in charge at the start of the season we should have expected to win most of our first 6 games with the players we have. 

Preston away is the only tricky one where we usually play crap.

Hudders away on 15th of sept is when the real season starts and thats when poo will hit the fan no doubt. Thats when we will need a manager in.

Thats when Bullen will be tested and hopefully wont end up in meltdown like did last year

 

 

I totally agree with all but one of these points. No-one can dispute the fact that Bully is well liked by fans and players alike, but although the press reports by local journo's seem to be half written by the club and Bully seems to have been convinced by somebody that he now has the qualities required to be head-coach/manager/gaffer, what has really changed since he last told us that he was not ready to manage a club like Sheffield Wednesday? Half of me would love to see him given a go at managing the club and the other half of me screams no, he is not ready. The high levels of expectation that Wednesdayites were feeling before Bruce jumped ship, were largely down to the fact that we had probably the most experienced and proven manager at this level with the most Championship to Premiership promotions on his CV and a whole host of contacts throughout the game from his time as a player and manager at various clubs. Bullen does not even have a managerial career to compare with that, so DC's criteria for new manager would have to change drastically for him to consider Lee Bullen as his prime target. For that reason alone I think that Bullen is being set up as a safe pair of hands to stand in for the new man and will gladly step aside once a suitable replacement has been found. Another major detail in the Hillsborough feel good factor, is that the majority if not all the players that we have signed this summer have been getting us all excited by their application, skill and speed, but again were probably all under consideration (possibly not Paul Jones), by Bruce, with preliminary talks and details already sorted and followed through by DC and his backroom staff after Bruce had gone. The tactics and style of play falls in with what Bruce had detailed as the way to play with this set of players and Bullen has admitted that nothing has really changed since Bruce left, with him reiterating those ideas and keeping his own words of encouragement and advice to a minimum. This is all great until we come up against a team that we are not expected to beat, which brings me to the one point that I disagree with. Poo should not be fired at fans at all, but especially if I am going to be the fan targeted by the poo flinger. Muck spreading Huddersfielders may go along with that kind of thing, but I do not!

 

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15 minutes ago, Ante's Bubbly said:

Bully seems to have been convinced by somebody that he now has the qualities required to be head-coach/manager/gaffer, what has really changed since he last told us that he was not ready to manage a club like Sheffield Wednesday? Half of me would love to see him given a go at managing the club and the other half of me screams no, he is not ready. The high levels of expectation that Wednesdayites were feeling...

 

 

How long would you give him?

In my eyes, as I've mentioned I believe we have an arguably easy run of fixtures and it would be too easy for a chairman to hand the job over. On the other hand if hes going to go a full 10 or 12 games so we can get a very good understanding of what hes capable of then we would most likely need to bring in a new coach or two anyway as by all accounts we have been left a bit short since bruce and the others left.

Then also by that time if it turns out sour its egg on chansiris face for not setting anyone on in the first place.

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35 minutes ago, sherlyegg said:

When did we last have a long term manager? And what makes you think we get one this time. Come to think of it, which clubs..especially in the championship have had a long term manager.

None on the list look long term to me.

Nah, no such thing as a right fit long termer, that just happens by default...if very lucky

CC was here two & half years, which is in the ball park of long term in football.

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49 minutes ago, apswfcowl said:

Photo-shopped that - Bullen wouldn't be seen dead in a red and white striped shirt!

 

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7 minutes ago, prowl said:

It's not a problem while things are going great but if we hit a bad patch it might.

Why would that be different if we had manager rather than caretaker.

You could argue it would be better to have a caretaker in that scenario for obvious reasons.

I think any new manager should be on trial for 3 months before getting a contract...just like in the real world.:biggrin:

4 minutes ago, Ante's Bubbly said:

, but again were probably all under consideration (possibly not Paul Jones), by Bruce

 

 

Bruce’s style of football has been criticised at previous clubs, it has been dubbed one-dimensional, unattractive and unambitious....so really not bruce type players.

Bruce likes 4-2-3-1 a lot.

We..so far are going 4-3-3 which allows us to play wider, not in keeping for bruce teams.

 

Why do you say probably? Suppose they could be.

Not having a go at bruce, he may well have got us promoted. But so far, we don't look anything like a bruce team.

 

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10 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said:

CC was here two & half years, which is in the ball park of long term in football.

Well that went well....so why do we want another 'long termer' at all costs.

Besides he was only long term because of DC's loyalty, he should have gone after hudds, or maybe even hull.

He would have anywhere else

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What odds Jose Mourinho as he says he’s the ‘Special One’ well let’s see how good he is with very little to spend, and for all you doubters there is a chance CC may ask him, after all the poo and poo names that’s been posed on here why not.

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37 minutes ago, Big Jack said:

Completely disagree when people keep saying this side is easier than this etc. Its arrogant to think teams are weaker than you. This is the the championship , there are no easy games all teams should be treated with the same respect, attitude of mind is vital otherwise you will get rightly bitten on the posterior!!

 

Eyup Big Jack, I agree that no games should be regarded as easier than others, except in hindsight. I do think though, that if the players are properly chosen and properly prepared for the different tests and situations that they are likely to come up against, the better team should win more of those games than they lose. Otherwise they would not be considered to be a better team.  I am pretty sure that attitude wise, managers prepare their players by warning them not to be complacent against teams like Burton, Rotherham, Barnsley etc and occasionally teams that look much better on paper, will end up still being complacent, or unprepared against these teams and come a cropper. However, when all 46 games have been played, most of the top 6, and bottom 6 teams will have been predicted by the majority of fans, pundits and bookmakers and only a small percentage will have turned out to totally surprise us over a full season and end up in the top six after being predicted for the top six. The odds would favour SWFC over Reading, Barnsley and Millwall, with Reading and Millwall finishing just above the relegation spots last season and Barnsley possibly being the hardest to predict after coming up, but still being given longer odds of promotion than Wednesday, so statistics would back up the majority of favoured teams beating the majority of non-favoured teams in a league situation. In a cup tie there are far more things come in to play, but as far as league games go, although any team can (and do) beat any other in this division, teams fancied to be in with a chance to go up will generally beat teams fancied to go be in with a good chance of going down, but there are, of course, always exceptions throughout the season. Hopefully Wednesday will not slip up too often against teams they are fancied to beat and surprise a few people against teams we are expected to lose to and that is where a good manager comes in isn't it. Let's hope our manager and  caretaker manager this season can swing the balance our way when we need it, by choosing the right tactics, formation, players and advice for more games than ever before and take us up without too many worries!

 

UTO!

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6 minutes ago, sherlyegg said:

Well that went well....so why do we want another 'long termer' at all costs.

Besides he was only long term because of DC's loyalty, he should have gone after hudds, or maybe even hull.

He would have anywhere else

I never said I want a long termer, I said I don’t want Bully long term - mostly for the reasons you illustrate perfectly. ATM Bully is a well liked figure amongst the fans. When it invariably goes t1ts-up it will be sad to see him get hounded out of the club. I would much rather he stays on in a coaching capacity. 

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11 minutes ago, owlsruleok said:

What odds Jose Mourinho as he says he’s the ‘Special One’ well let’s see how good he is with very little to spend, and for all you doubters there is a chance CC may ask him, after all the poo and poo names that’s been posed on here why not.

 

Why, is CC going to ask him for the assistants job ?

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9 hours ago, Ferkorf said:

Yes clearly I do...

But these are winnable games.

Thats all Im saying.

If you want to stroll down memories cast your mind back to burton. We lost 3-0 Bullen was in tears almost after the game. Thats what I dont want to see happen again.

 

I used to cry when they handed Christmas presents out on the telly on the children's ward... I didn't cry when my dad died... people change..

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6 hours ago, sherlyegg said:

Why would that be different if we had manager rather than caretaker.

You could argue it would be better to have a caretaker in that scenario for obvious reasons.

I think any new manager should be on trial for 3 months before getting a contract...just like in the real world.:biggrin:

 

 

Bruce’s style of football has been criticised at previous clubs, it has been dubbed one-dimensional, unattractive and unambitious....so really not bruce type players.

Bruce likes 4-2-3-1 a lot.

We..so far are going 4-3-3 which allows us to play wider, not in keeping for bruce teams.

 

Why do you say probably? Suppose they could be.

Not having a go at bruce, he may well have got us promoted. But so far, we don't look anything like a bruce team.

 

 

Theres not much difference between the two systems as we are effectively 4231 or 451 without the ball and 433 on the attack. Bruce’s Villa side had some good wingers involved too and I think we’ve followed a similar blue print. 

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Crikey, I hope Sol Campbell odds don't start tumbling in the next couple of hours....

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12 minutes ago, spike1867 said:

Crikey, I hope Sol Campbell odds don't start tumbling in the next couple of hours....

 

Already 4th favourite on sky bet 

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25 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said:

 

Already 4th favourite on sky bet 

 

2nd. 13/2

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25 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said:

 

Already 4th favourite on sky bet 

 

I imagine just trying to bring in new bets on a market which must be completely dead at this stage. 

 

Bullen or not, I really wish a decision would be made! 

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21 hours ago, camffiti said:

 

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Brilliant Sir 

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