OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Pablo Bonvin said: Hannes Montanes. Make a fist with your Hannes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, OWLERTON GHOST said: Make a fist with your Hannes.... Hannes and her Sisteres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, debram said: Move someone on then I would say. The problem being were notoriously bad at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pablo Bonvin said: Hannes and her Sisteres That's the way I was leaning to ..... A little more Subtle though .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jonnyowl said: I'd give it Bullen! Get a couple.of experienced coaches in alongside him. Appease the fans by signing Hector! Think most of us would accept Bullen if it meant we signed Hector! Think you might be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, bigrbuk said: The problem being were notoriously bad at it Exactly and that problem seemed resolved when Bruce and his team came so makes it even more important to bring in a new manager asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 hours ago, jonnyowl said: I'd give it Bullen! Get a couple.of experienced coaches in alongside him. Appease the fans by signing Hector! Think most of us would accept Bullen if it meant we signed Hector! It’s not as simple as that, I can’t imagine for a second Hector would come to Hillsborough with Bullen in charge, a good season with us has dramatically raised his profile, he will believe he can continue his improvement and I think he may have considered us under SB (finances allowing), but not with Bullen in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I think it’s got to the stage now where just about anybody could be appointed as our next manager. I think all the bets placed so far have been on educated guesses rather than being based on cast iron information? It’s looking to me that the next manager will be more an appointment in the Carvalhal/Lukuhay mould rather than Bruce. Obviously it’s an appointment that will either work or not. That said the longer things continue as they are the more likely Bullen will be appointed. Let’s face it, he’s been caretaker three times and if he doesn’t get it then there will be an expectation from the Chairman that Bullen remains as part of the coaching staff so at some stage the job may as well be his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: I think it’s got to the stage now where just about anybody could be appointed as our next manager. I think all the bets placed so far have been on educated guesses rather than being based on cast iron information? It’s looking to me that the next manager will be more an appointment in the Carvalhal/Lukuhay mould rather than Bruce. Obviously it’s an appointment that will either work or not. That said the longer things continue as they are the more likely Bullen will be appointed. Let’s face it, he’s been caretaker three times and if he doesn’t get it then there will be an expectation from the Chairman that Bullen remains as part of the coaching staff so at some stage the job may as well be his? Carvalhal as in 2 seasons - 2 play offs? Or Jos drops best players and totally clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Rogers said: Carvalhal as in 2 seasons - 2 play offs? Or Jos drops best players and totally clueless Both came to the club with a reputation for being good organisers, and tactically astute. We saw it from the former, but not from the latter. Having said that, both were hindered by a horrendous injury crisis in season three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Both came to the club with a reputation for being good organisers, and tactically astute. We saw it from the former, but not from the latter. Having said that, both were hindered by a horrendous injury crisis in season three 'tactically astute' until the play off final, what a game to 'freeze' in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rogers said: Carvalhal as in 2 seasons - 2 play offs? Or Jos drops best players and totally clueless It was more in the sense of being unknown on these shores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: 'tactically astute' until the play off final, what a game to 'freeze' in. Yes a shocker, but these things happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: I think it’s got to the stage now where just about anybody could be appointed as our next manager. I think all the bets placed so far have been on educated guesses rather than being based on cast iron information? It’s looking to me that the next manager will be more an appointment in the Carvalhal/Lukuhay mould rather than Bruce. Obviously it’s an appointment that will either work or not. That said the longer things continue as they are the more likely Bullen will be appointed. Let’s face it, he’s been caretaker three times and if he doesn’t get it then there will be an expectation from the Chairman that Bullen remains as part of the coaching staff so at some stage the job may as well be his? If we were still under an embargo then Bullen or an obscure long out of work Carlos or Jos type or a Rowett type, would have been more likely. But now we're out of the embargo, I think we will go for a more ambitious appointment. If we can't bring in Hughton, I reckon DC will probably follow the latest trends of managerial appointments by going for a younger manager; someone on the rise, a coach/assistant or a high profile foreign manager. Bullen is more suited to remaining among the coaching staff and not as a permanent manager. Edited July 27, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes a shocker, but these things happen it did to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Both came to the club with a reputation for being good organisers, and tactically astute. We saw it from the former, but not from the latter. Having said that, both were hindered by a horrendous injury crisis in season three Carlos had his moments but by the third season had lost the plot. In fact, his second season was by and large like watching paint dry, though it was effective. Jos seemingly never had a clue from day one. A few decent spells aside, he was all over the place tactically. Never seen a manager change formations/line ups on such a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, SiJ said: Carlos had his moments but by the third season had lost the plot. In fact, his second season was by and large like watching paint dry, though it was effective. Jos seemingly never had a clue from day one. A few decent spells aside, he was all over the place tactically. Never seen a manager change formations/line ups on such a regular basis. Yes, I agree with all of that. My point was, prior to joining us, both coaches were respected for their tactical approach, often on a budget. I very much enjoyed Carlos’s first season, but wasn’t clear why he changed tactics for season two. Well, I suppose he did it to give us greater control of the game, by getting us extra bodies in the middle of the park, by using inverted wingers. Like you, I hated it, so much so, that I stopped attending home matches as a regular. From his point of view though, getting to the play offs again, despite a mid season injury crisis, will be viewed as a success. Sadly, in season three, it was just more of the same, with the manager refusing to change tactics again. The less said about Jos, the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, dorian gray said: 'tactically astute' until the play off final, what a game to 'freeze' in. I still think that dropping Lopez who was having a great run in the team, for Hutchinson, was one of the reasons we didn't turn up Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Yes a shocker, but these things happen Perhaps appoint Carvalhal and then fire him before the playoffs. (Bristol RU once did something like that with some of their playing squad in the Championship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: I still think that dropping Lopez who was having a great run in the team, for Hutchinson, was one of the reasons we didn't turn up He always reverted to certain favs when it mattered, whether they were fit or not. Dave Jones wasnt for everyone but he featured in pretty much every game when we won 6 in a row in 2016/2017... He was then dropped for Hutchinson in the play offs. Most bizarre was Carlos playing a barely fit Lee, Hutch etc., in a nothing game with Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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