pazowl55 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Its principal for Chansiri now I recon wont care about the money. We will appointment a new manager and Bruce will find out the hard way that you dont mess with Chansiri. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Gardening leave means we pay him though right? I'd rather not give him a single penny more if this is all true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, steviewonder said: Can Chansiri refuse the resignation and put him on gardening leave till Ashley pays up? https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2019/april/vacancy-head-groundsman/ 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Apparently if we appoint another manager while we have an injunction out on him it could be viewed as constructive dismissal so will fizz us even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Minton said: You do realise it's not like he's tearing up his contract right? He's resigning from managing the club, the contract is still in place and Newcastle will still have to pay compensation to release him from it, or he will simply be placed on gardening leave, unable to sign a new contract with a new employer, same as if we sacked him. So we'd still have to pay their wages? All three of 'em As well as the team of lawyers we'd need to sort it all out? Meanwhile, Ashley shrugs it off and targets some other gullible tw@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasthagotanycheese Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 If training has finished already then its an absolute disgrace. Still time for a 5 mile run round Greno Woods. #getmegsonin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 fizz him then. He'll be on I'm a Celebrity by Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, ElsecarOwl said: Yes. Basically he's on a 1 year rolling contract, so potentially if DC refuses to release him from it, he's basically in no mans land for 12 months. IMO 1 minute ago, bigrbuk said: Gardening leave means we pay him though right? I'd rather not give him a single penny more if this is all true https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/sports/item/football-manager-contracts-of-employment-an-analysis-of-key-clauses-for-clubs-to-consider-part-2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC1Owl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: This. At times like this we could really have done with Katrien Meire still at the club. Seriously. The compensation clause is the price of buying out the contract. They are not two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Would taking an injunction out against Bruce impact our ability to replace him? Im not greatly familiar with how it turned out at Palace. Im a petty man. We’ll have that month back the spineless snake took from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: This. At times like this we could really have done with Katrien Meire still at the club. Seriously. Paul Aldridge. He would make Ashley and Bruce look like mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani_armo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Never trust a pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, vulva said: Paul Aldridge. He would make Ashley and Bruce look like mugs. He's been too busy helping Ken Anderson asset strip Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHall Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 "....that's football" . UTO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, vulva said: Paul Aldridge. He would make Ashley and Bruce look like mugs. Did fantastic at Bolton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 GARDEN LEAVE A Club can attempt to hold a Manager who is being courted by a rival Club to his contractual notice period (or to the end of his fixed term, if the Contract is expressed in that way). However, in such circumstances, relationships will often become strained, and the Manager’s current Club will typically not want the Manager to remain involved in the team’s day-to-day affairs. In such circumstances, and provided the Manager’s Contract contains the appropriate provisions, his Club can seek to place him on “garden leave”. English courts are reluctant, on grounds of public policy, to allow employers (including Clubs) to put their employees on garden leave for periods longer than six to twelve months1. However, the tactic of placing a Manager on garden leave is commonly used to delay the Manager’s departure to the rival Club, and to increase the compensation being offered for him, rather than stopping his move happening at all. The effectiveness of this strategy was seen in 2001, in the case of Steve Bruce, who wanted to leave Crystal Palace to join Birmingham City. Less than a year into his Palace Contract (which, amongst other things, provided for a nine-month notice period, and also contained a garden leave clause), Bruce attempted to resign with immediate effect, but Palace rejected that resignation (which would have amounted to a breach of contract), and sought to keep the Contract alive, by continuing to pay Bruce and honouring the Club’s contractual obligations to him. Palace sought an injunction from the High Court to enforce Bruce’s garden leave provision against him and, on the facts of that case, that injunction was granted2. Less than a month later, Palace did allow Bruce to join Birmingham, but only after Birmingham had increased their offer of compensation (allegedly from £250k to nearer the £1m Palace wanted)3. An almost identical scenario played out in 2003 when Alan Pardew sought to leave Reading to join West Ham United. In that case, a deal was agreed at the door of the court, pursuant to which Pardew agreed to (i) remain on garden leave for a month, (ii) not employ any of Reading’s staff or players until the end of the season, and (iii) give an undertaking not to use or disclose Reading’s confidential information. West Ham also agreed to pay Reading compensation of £380k4. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A E Neuman NYowl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 we need to move on as quickly as possible, it may mean negotiating a smaller settlement than what we are looking for. Unfortunately in football bigger fish hold all the trump cards, and if they want your player or as in this case our manager they will get them. If I was a Newcastle fan I would be disgusted with his appointment as it shows a real lack of ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, WC1Owl said: Doesn't change anything until and unless Chansiri agrees to terminate his contract. Chansiri's obvious move is to put him on gardening leave, take out an injunction to stop him joining Newcastle, and start the process of appointing a replacement. The only grey area is if appointing a replacement would amount to constructive dismissal. I seriously doubt it. Bruce has resigned, we refuse to accept it (presumably). He refuses to carry out his duties so we must find a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I'd urge Chansiri to take the compensation package allegedly still on the table. We can't risk getting nothing from this and we could do without the hassle of an injunction. Standing your ground is all well and good, but it can blow up in your face if you're not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Probably waited until after the weekend so he could watch the cricket before heading out to China, the lazy poo . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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