poite Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, RichieB said: Why put it on Chansiri as the reason this deal doesn't get done? To put it another way... My main fear is Ashley tries to bully us and refuses to pay what we require to lose our entire coaching staff less than 3 weeks before a season starts, and walks away, then nobody will be happy. We've got Bruce on a one year rolling contract. What amount of compensation could you honestly expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I'm looking forward to.... ....The big kick off. Whoever is in charge I think the squad if looking a bit more balanced. We've signed two players with some genuine pace and if we can continue to carry on where we left off last season I think we're in for a decent year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, poite said: We've got Bruce on a one year rolling contract. What amount of compensation could you honestly expect According to Alan Nixon, there's a £5m release clause in Bruce's contract. If that's the case, then I'd honestly expect £5m in compensation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, theowlsman said: Not sure why anyone would be looking forward to losing a class Championship manager who has started to turn things around for us tbh. I thought the clamour to get rid of Forestieri was daft too. He's managed us for 18 games, it's not like he's made a lasting impression, if he goes he'll be a footnote in the history of the club On the other side, I'm still not convinced that we have brought in anyone semi-competent after Dross and they'd have manged to get the same results as Bruce did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 4 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: If we got 5 million compensation and appointed Hughton, I’d be delighted In my opinion Hughton is the better manager he deffo is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I'm not happy he is on his way out...seemingly. It was the best bit of luck we seemed to have in a long time when Jos went, he came...performances picked up. A manager with a track record, a reputation , which probably offset all the amateurish goings on that seemed to pervade the footballing side of the club. Recruitment, no favourites, a system that played to our strengths, and was easy on the eye. Wednesday being Wednesday..It lasted 6 months... So..No..i'm not happy he's going....cos I have little confidence the stars won't align like that for a while again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Disappointed that he's going but still gonna look to next season with optimism, assuming we get an established manager in. If its another no mark from the Dutch 3rd division then I'll not be a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I am feeling quite positive about it for a few reasons, Firstly it will be awkward if he stays, the fans won't appreciate him so much and it will come up everytime we are on a bad run. There was the feel good factor during his tenure which will be lost if he stays. Secondly Bruce has been successful but I'm not sure it's to do with Bruce or whether we just had a manager picking our best available players unlike Jos. However based on him being a success I am now feel that Chansiri will have realised appointing a manager who knows the English game well is important. I am confident as like Bruce we will be happy with our next appointment. My main fear is that Chansiri bargains too hard and Ashley walks a way, then nobody will be happy. Ashley hires someone else, we dismiss Bruce. Edited July 14, 2019 by Socialist_Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: According to Alan Nixon, there's a £5m release clause in Bruce's contract. If that's the case, then I'd honestly expect £5m in compensation. So would i. But other reports have suggested somewhere around 1-1.5m. what we don't want is chansiri then wanting 5m if those reports are true Edited July 14, 2019 by poite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, poite said: So would i. But other reports have suggested somewhere around 1-1.5m. what we don't want is chansiri then wanting 5m if those reports are true He can’t demand something that’s not in his contract can he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, poite said: So would i. But other reports have suggested somewhere around 1-1.5m. what we don't want is chansiri then wanting 5m if those reports are true If it's written into the contract, then Chansiri has to accept that. He can't ask for more. Well, I suppose he can ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, wilyfox said: No, it would be a day when the ugly side of the game wins. Why bring Peter Beardsley and Iain Dowie into this ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Plum Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Well I am, he's nailed his knickers to the flag post, his situation at Hillsborough is now untenable. He wants to go to the geordies and he should now FRO. I thought we'd got the Messiah but we just finished up with a c---. Just hope the spelling lessons come along. I don't bear the bloke any ill will, just hope his balls fester and drop off, steve bruce and the illiterate deserve each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I was pleased when we got him. A manager with a bit of pedigree, some good contacts and seemingly respected by players and other managers. However this last week has shown a different side to him and I get that there are bigger jobs in football than being manager of Wednesday but the way it seems to have been done and the patience afforded to him at the start have been thrown back at the fans but more so Mr Chansiri. If we can get the reported £5 million and attract Hughton then I would be happy with that outcome. I don't want anybody at our club that doesn't want to be here and think they are bigger or better than us. Respect Steve Bruce? You don't know the meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 We have at last got an able manager. No real indication about who is coming in and it is doubtful he will be of similar quality at this point in season. The much touted Hughton would want to shape a team in his way and I think he is older than Bruce Would he want to work through financial mess CC term got us into/ Bruce has been clever and got coaches to implement his philosophy this means when he leaves takes coaches with him and we have huge gap in capability. It is a time to be concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, The Night-Owl said: That's perfect if they do get us up but what if they don't? Then what? Only 3 teams go up, it's not easy. If we get another experienced proven Championship specialist in or someone who is near the end of their career and they still can't get us up. We might be looking for another new manager this time next year. Why? Bruce didn't say we would go up this year, he said he would need several windows to sort things out. I would expect the same of a new experienced manager. Great if he gets us up this year but if he improves the squad and our league position there's no reason to get rid of him. If we are still not promoted in year 2 we would need to look at how things are going but even then he might get another year if we are on the right track. The trouble with an up and coming manager is that they don't always fulfill their potential when they step up. Better someone who's been there and done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Thing is, I don't buy that Bruce wants to leave. He just wants to go Newcastle. There's a difference. Think he'd ne more than happy to stay and if it was any other team he wouldn't be interested. I think that is wishful thinking. He's got history of being a mercenary. Personally I think he would go if a bigger club came in for him even if it wasn't Newcastle. He's no loyalty to us, no reason he should have we are just another club to him. All the round 'uns about us being special fans is just PR to get us onside. Cynical manipulation and we sucked it up because we wanted to. Pay the compo and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Only positive if he goes is that he's put together a decent side in short time he's been here. Not only has he brought better players in but he's improved mentality of players who have been here a while. If he comes to his senses and decides he wants to stay at Hillsborough I'll be ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, prowl said: Why? Bruce didn't say we would go up this year, he said he would need several windows to sort things out. I would expect the same of a new experienced manager. Great if he gets us up this year but if he improves the squad and our league position there's no reason to get rid of him. If we are still not promoted in year 2 we would need to look at how things are going but even then he might get another year if we are on the right track. The trouble with an up and coming manager is that they don't always fulfill their potential when they step up. Better someone who's been there and done it. Because an experienced manager near the end of their career is more likely to not stick around for various reasons. They could be washed up and just looking for a final pay day; they might only have a year or so left in them before they decide to retire. It's all good if we find one in it for the long term, then fair enough. A experienced manager near the end of their career with a proven record, doesn't necessarily mean we will get promoted. There are different ways of doing it and only 3 clubs go up. Who'd have thought Norwich and the Pigs would go up? Dean Smith was brought in at Villa, he was a manager on the rise rather than on the decline and he didn't have Bruce's record but he completed Bruce's work in getting Villa over the line after Bruce left. My thinking is, that a proven experienced manager near the end of their career, might not be the best possible replacement. A younger manager on the rise might be able to build something upon the foundations prepared by Bruce and if we go up or not, they could possibly be here longer to build something properly with, that's of course if we bring in the right one. There are risks whatever route we take, short term or long term, forward thinking or taking on someone who's better days are behind them. I just think after Bruce, it might be smarter to be forward thinking or doing things long term. I'd rather do things smartly by thinking long term and by wheeling and dealing, etc. Who knows, what DC will be thinking or what he will do if Bruce leaves? Edited July 14, 2019 by The Night-Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Plum Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Oh FFS, can't you numpties see what Ashleys doing, cause disruption within the club and get him for nowt, it really is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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