Rogers Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Silkstone Owl said: Bullen is all those things you describe So why not him over Loovens? Bullen was a crap player in League 1 and our defence was usually all over the place, and has had numerous goes at caretaker manager without anyone mentioning he should stay on as manager. He did bring back Westwood, which was a no brainer. He’s Wednesday through and through and you can’t knock him for that. I’d probably rather have Bullen than Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Rogers said: Coming to the end of his career and he knows the clubs and players inside out. Commands respect from the squad and know’s how to organise a defence. Would you consider our old Captain as manager. Clubs seem to be giving players a go, straight into management without having to spend years coaching. Have you been smoking your socks? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Rogers said: Bullen was a crap player in League 1 and our defence was usually all over the place, and has had numerous goes at caretaker manager without anyone mentioning he should stay on as manager. He did bring back Westwood, which was a no brainer. He’s Wednesday through and through and you can’t knock him for that. I’d probably rather have Bullen than Moyes. What’s him being a limited player got to do with anything when it comes to management ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, james o connor said: What’s him being a limited player got to do with anything when it comes to management ? Nothing...I’m responding to someone saying Bullen has the same attributes I described previously. Bullen couldn’t organise a defence as player or managed. He was usually the one in the defence that created mayhem Mourinho didn’t play and he’s not done too bad Edited July 14, 2019 by Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Dizzys Dad said: Good shout. I’d have him in a heartbeat before any of the others being mentioned. I really want Bruce to tell Ashley to shove it though. I think if Bruce had any intention of doing that he would already have done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl 44 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, Philb125 said: So why pay anyone 40k a week if it’s that simple surely most on here would do it for a free seat and a packet of Crisps? Errr.... It was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Owl 44 said: Errr.... It was a joke. Yep, I reread and applied the laughing button. Hilarious :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rogers said: Nothing...I’m responding to someone saying Bullen has the same attributes I described previously. Bullen couldn’t organise a defence as player or managed. He was usually the one in the defence that created mayhem Mourinho didn’t play and he’s not done too bad Bit harsh on bullen our defence wasn’t bad first two years we got promoted with him in . He still wouldn’t be my first choice either though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) “Knows the club inside and out” is the biggest load of rounduns spouted when any club is looking for a new manager for a start we don’t need someone who knows what pies are served at half time, what the catering folk get paid, what detergent is used in the washing machine, we just need someone who knows football, can pick the best players in t(e best formation with the best tactics......improve the players we have and have a knack and contacts for bringing better ones in anything else is irrelevant That apart, the term is used more loosely than “club legend”.....Loovens was here for a few years as a player, why would that mean he knows us inside and out......there was even a post the other day claiming that Sturrock knew us inside and out,,,,,Christ he’s had nothing to do wit( is for at least a decade, we’ve had 2 new owners since then! just get a good bloody football manager like Steve Watson, a club legend who knows us inside and out Edited July 14, 2019 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdogg20 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Nothing against Liam Palmer, but using this type of association means he's a lock in for the job when he finishes up playing. He'll know the place inside out after twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Ian said: “Knows the club inside and out” is the biggest load of rounduns spouted when any club is looking for a new manager for a start we don’t need someone who knows what pies are served at half time, what the catering folk get paid, what detergent is used in the washing machine, we just need someone who knows football, can pick the best players in t(e best formation with the best tactics......improve the players we have and have a knack and contacts for bringing better ones in anything else is irrelevant That apart, the term is used more loosely than “club legend”.....Loovens was here for a few years as a player, why would that mean he knows us inside and out......there was even a post the other day claiming that Sturrock knew us inside and out,,,,,Christ he’s had nothing to do wit( is for at least a decade, we’ve had 2 new owners since then! just get a good bloody football manager like Steve Watson, a club legend who knows us inside and out Why would you need to know what pies are served, etc. I think the term is used about people who know the squad and the players characters and capabilities. As as you say..it’s about improving players and if you know them, it gives you a head start. Handy when pre-season is fizzed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Rogers said: Fair point..but he is a big name with our players and he knows the club. We’ve wasted pre-season and he’s respected by players at this level. Players, current and ex seem to think he was a key person at the club. He’s also got his coaching badges....but I get that most will want someone with experience like McLaren, Moyes, Jos, etc. Joey Pelupessy: “I think he is really important. Everything he says, the team picks it up. He is doing everything for the team and he is really important. “In the dressing room, he is a little bit louder. But he is quiet and that is his style, I think. If he says something, then it is 100 per cent true. He is quiet, but the things he says are direct and everybody knows he is right. He is very important.” Vincent Sasso: “Glenn is really important. Even when he was not playing much last year, he’s an experienced guy. He gives advice on and off the pitch. He’s like the father of the group. I hope Moyes, McLaren, Jos Mkii, are not our options God no Moyes mcClaren!. Chris Hughton or monk would be ok. Still hope we keep bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Rogers said: Why would you need to know what pies are served, etc. I think the term is used about people who know the squad and the players characters and capabilities. As as you say..it’s about improving players and if you know them, it gives you a head start. Handy when pre-season is fizzed Well said. Didnt know loovens had done his badges, or maybe i did but i forgot! Anyway, Clubs often go for the opposite of the last man dont they. For instance from youth to experience or from a gobby stroppy guy to a cool calm guy. Point im making is DC will be hurt by what has happened, so if his thought is now loyalty, it wouldnt surprise me if DC was to give loovens a thought. If it did happen, we would be missing certain things, experience, know how, Contacts, etc etc etc. But he would certainly have the dressing room, an thats half the battle. With a more balanced squad thats ready to go (if the SB thing happened 3 wks later) then i could see Loovens doing a good job. But with 'this' squad and much wheeling and dealing still to be done hes probably not the right fit.. Having said that I personally would love to see it. Certainly be more interesting than seeing some guy with proven failures who i dont rate at all get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 21 hours ago, timrud said: Might as well give the job to Semedo But does Semedo's ferrett have any experience over and above being an owlstalker ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 It's a yes from me as long as he does his playoff dance in the technical area everytime we score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 21 hours ago, S36 OWL said: could never have a manager who looks like Sean Bean Harsh on our Glenn that is mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Thinking about it... loovens has just had a season in L1, he'll know a few rough diamonds. You never know, he might be able to fill the gaps with young players we could actually make a profit on - radical i know! Yeah im in. So much so that i am gonna turn into how siminiac owl behaves regarding meggo!! Come on DC u know it make sense. Loovens for manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 This thread wants pinning as the 'ridiculous suggestions thread'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If our expectations weren’t immediate promotion and he had all his qualifications he’d not be a terrible shout. Just like Boro with woodgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We are all Wednesday Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 14/07/2019 at 01:11, Rogers said: Coming to the end of his career and he knows the clubs and players inside out. Commands respect from the squad and know’s how to organise a defence. Would you consider our old Captain as manager. Clubs seem to be giving players a go, straight into management without having to spend years coaching. One day maybe - I’ve got a lot of time for Glenn, a great leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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