WC1Owl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, bobness said: That's akin to saying your business strategy is "buy low sell high", it's just words mate. In actual context, show me where the hardball trend at this club has paid off. We haven't been able to shift players, on the commercial side many executive boxes have supposedly gone unsold, and I'm sure there are other examples. Hate to say it, but it doesn't appear the club has a clue when it comes to negotiations. We've been taken for absolute mugs when it came to buying players, and expect everyone else to be equally inept when it's our turn to sell. Can you point to a specific quibble you have with my take on this other than an overall sense that Chansiri is being unreasonable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, bobness said: That's akin to saying your business strategy is "buy low sell high", it's just words mate. In actual context, show me where the hardball trend at this club has paid off. We haven't been able to shift players, on the commercial side many executive boxes have supposedly gone unsold, and I'm sure there are other examples. Hate to say it, but it doesn't appear the club has a clue when it comes to negotiations. We've been taken for absolute mugs when it came to buying players, and expect everyone else to be equally inept when it's our turn to sell. You can't see that we hold the aces in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Really hope Ashley agrees to pay what DC wants soon. This needs sorting ASAP. We need to move forward and forget the poo shower of a week, get a new manager in place and give ourselves the best chance of doing something next season. If Bruce was staying the club would have issued a statement by now, he shouldn’t be with the players tomorrow. Edited July 12, 2019 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, WC1Owl said: Where's the business sense in caving? If we accept a penny less than what's in the contract, people will know next time that we will do it again. This isn't analogous to an unrealistic player valuation. We know it's a realistic clause because Bruce signed it. This isn't about spite or posturing. It's about honouring a deal. The whole point of the clause is to deter poaching. Not going to comment on the George Hirst thing, it's not relevant to this. If the pattern is one where you keep losing, it might be wise to review your strategies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arnold Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: This Verne guy is making it up as he goes along. Cause he is. Keeps changing his story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1993swfc said: Gotta be, sure I read this morning that he said it was £2m? Now it’s £6m? Eh He’s getting carried away now. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC1Owl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, bobness said: If the pattern is one where you keep losing, it might be wise to review your strategies... So that would be a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, bobness said: If the pattern is one where you keep losing, it might be wise to review your strategies... I explained Dcs thought process behind the Hirst deal, we were offered 1 mill, which is the only ever reported figure, Tribunal would have paid more, DC left it for that reason, Leicester bent us over and he fu*cked off to their feeder club to screw the tribunal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Costello 77 said: You can't see that we hold the aces in this situation? I'm not suggesting we don't demand compensation, I am only saying there's a limit to how much can reasonably be asked. Digging your heels in to the extent the negotiations fall apart, and then paying out your manager's contract because now you want to sack him, is stupidity at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Tbf that’s what he makes a living from. He’s a tipster if he was any good he wouldn’t be tipping for anyone else My tip is. Don’t listen to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 SSN just reported this "snag" over the compo as if it was breaking news. Where've they been all day?! I know they got thrown out of the training ground but they could've just looked on Owlstalk... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This isn’t going to end well, Chansiri is well known for been a tough negotiator and Mike Ashley really hates spending money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: The guy makes his living out of making guesses mate. Hes going to get somethings right at some point. Even with this he has a fifty percent chance of being someway right. That’s what tipsters do, they pick things where they have a good chance of being right to look good. Old Roland is bang on this time, give u some grief lad but fair play on this occasion you are not wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC1Owl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, bobness said: [snip] I am only saying there's a limit to how much can reasonably be asked. [snip] I agree. It's what's in his contract that he freely signed up to and which is not at all unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, bobness said: I'm not suggesting we don't demand compensation, I am only saying there's a limit to how much can reasonably be asked. Digging your heels in to the extent the negotiations fall apart, and then paying out your manager's contract because now you want to sack him, is stupidity at best. Who's sacking him.. he's under contract.. you're leaping to assumptions to make your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I wish this lot would flipping hurry up and end... it's getting silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bobness said: I'm not suggesting we don't demand compensation, I am only saying there's a limit to how much can reasonably be asked. Digging your heels in to the extent the negotiations fall apart, and then paying out your manager's contract because now you want to sack him, is stupidity at best. The main point is they want something , badly. We don't want to sell and realistically we don't have to sell. Bruce and all his staff are hardly going to go rouge and strike, every media station, paper, the football league and prem would throw the book at him and drag his name through the dirt. wednesday's just got to stick to it, get a shed load of cash or keep simple. Edited July 12, 2019 by agentwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Who's sacking him.. he's under contract.. you're leaping to assumptions to make your argument. Exactly. If DC plays hardball enough to scupper the deal then logically it should be because he believes Bruce will still do a good job for us in spite of any disappointment he may feel at not going to Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinwestzicoest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The is like f**king Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBridgfordowl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Looks like Ashley is trying to lure him with his company car 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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