Sham67 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Kameron said: You mean like last years transfer embargo was common knowledge? Are you seriously saying that the manager would not know our status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kameron said: You mean like last years transfer embargo was common knowledge? It will have been known in and aroud the football world yeh, 100% Sorry but I ain’t having it ,not a chance would Steve Bruce have turned up here if the proverbial is about to hit the fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, Sham67 said: Are you seriously saying that the manager would not know our status? You would hope so but until the P&S issues are resolved with the EFL how can Bruce know what budget he does or doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: It will have been known in and aroud the football world yeh, 100% Sorry but I ain’t having it ,not a chance would Steve Bruce have turned up here if the proverbial is about to hit the fan He worked under the Allam's at Hull. Why would DC tell a new incoming manager we we're going to be up sh it creek? If DC has been upfront with Bruce we have no issues, if he hasn't then Bruce has to decide can he work within the given budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, Kameron said: You would hope so but until the P&S issues are resolved with the EFL how can Bruce know what budget he does or doesn't have. How do you know they aren't? If there ever was any. The EFL statement re Birmingham was pretty clear that no other clubs were being sanctioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sham67 said: How do you know they aren't? If there ever was any. The EFL statement re Birmingham was pretty clear that no other clubs were being sanctioned. At that stage and prior to us failing to submit accounts. As stated previously and in other similar threads, my prediction is that baring some massive injection of cash we're fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kameron said: At that stage and prior to us failing to submit accounts. As stated previously and in other similar threads, my prediction is that baring some massive injection of cash we're fooked. That would have been after we submitted the accounts to the EFL. You are aware that this is different to submitting them to HMRC? Birmingham were sanctioned for transgressing in the same period. As for your second point, that is usually called projection. Edited June 4, 2019 by Sham67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kameron said: At that stage and prior to us failing to submit accounts. As stated previously and in other similar threads, my prediction is that baring some massive injection of cash we're fooked. To Companies House not EFL as far as we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 EFL may already be aware of the accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, tarn owl said: Friday 26th July. And i will keep looking for news expectantly until then like a fool. As for all points deduction, FFP and stadium ownership stuff. I am not going to claim to know anything, i will just sit back and wait to hear the news. Nothing would surprise me though. Nothing. reminds me...its our wedding anniversary....better not forget otherwise it will be a SCHITSTORM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Time will tell, yes the EFL will have projections but they are just that. They can’t hand out punishment until they’ve had sight of the final accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Wait - hasn’t the entire league only made like 3 incoming transfers? Is everyone under an embargo or is it just the negotiating period at the start of the window? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kameron said: Time will tell, yes the EFL will have projections but they are just that. They can’t hand out punishment until they’ve had sight of the final accounts. Load of Bull the EFL work with clubs to have up to date information about budgets and expenditure the accounts we summit to CH for the previous year 2017-2018 have no bearing on this. Go and hawk your doom prophecy to someone who thinks it's credible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Hookowl said: To Companies House not EFL as far as we know. We have already had to submit accounts to EFL. Deadline was earlier in year and all Championship clubs complied. Filing accounts late to companies house is not unusual, you will see many companies will be late. This is one of those guys with a chip on shoulder (probably from Allen days) who now have a beef and are nothing but a pain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Quist said: We have already had to submit accounts to EFL. Deadline was earlier in year and all Championship clubs complied. Filing accounts late to companies house is not unusual, you will see many companies will be late. This is one of those guys with a chip on shoulder (probably from Allen days) who now have a beef and are nothing but a pain. Yes I realised that, 31st March was deadline. Just trying to calm him down a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Kameron said: Time will tell, yes the EFL will have projections but they are just that. They can’t hand out punishment until they’ve had sight of the final accounts. I think you should reel your neck in a bit, coming out with these unfounded assumptions, DC and SB discussed budget about a month ago, I'm sure both are fully aware of circumstances, and for now its none of our business so just let them get on with it, and when it's time to tell us something they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybeararmy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Quist said: We have already had to submit accounts to EFL. Deadline was earlier in year and all Championship clubs complied. Filing accounts late to companies house is not unusual, you will see many companies will be late. This is one of those guys with a chip on shoulder (probably from Allen days) who now have a beef and are nothing but a pain. When we changed our year end we would have needed to submit revised accounts to cover the period. Only the club and the elf know if this has happened. We changed our year end at the last possible moment and still haven't managed to submit said accounts, a month late and counting. If you are only concerned with on the pitch matters that's fine, but don't slate someone who shares a legitimate concern with the financial side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, teddybeararmy said: When we changed our year end we would have needed to submit revised accounts to cover the period. Only the club and the elf know if this has happened. We changed our year end at the last possible moment and still haven't managed to submit said accounts, a month late and counting. If you are only concerned with on the pitch matters that's fine, but don't slate someone who shares a legitimate concern with the financial side. Legitimate concerns are to be welcomed, but the guy is speculating, guessing,on a hunch of what he thinks may/might/will happen, its nonsense at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, teddybeararmy said: When we changed our year end we would have needed to submit revised accounts to cover the period. Only the club and the elf know if this has happened. We changed our year end at the last possible moment and still haven't managed to submit said accounts, a month late and counting. If you are only concerned with on the pitch matters that's fine, but don't slate someone who shares a legitimate concern with the financial side. The things stated are not appropriate. Late reporting of accounts to Companies House is not a big issue. The things being stated re embargo and points deduction are simply not accurate. If you have any commercial acumen at all you will know that when you are in transgression of a rule as we were last summer, we will have agreed a plan with EFL to get back to within £13 million loss rule. This is clearly what we are following and it will mean spending is restricted until we achieve that goal. Only a complete idiot would assume you have an embargo lift it and then have another few months later. The utter tripe which was being posted was nothing more than to stir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) It would seem to me that since the arrival of Mr Chansiri at the club, information that seeps into the public domain has been scarce to say the least apart from when the chairman decides to address the fan base whether it be twice a season at specially arranged fan forums or through the official website. Personally I don't have a problem with this. This seems to be the way he wants to conduct his business and that's of course his perogative. The problem you then have is the general wall of silence frustrates and upsets the fan base and this leads to speculation and speculation when it comes to Wednesday is always like expecting Armageddon. We naturally expect the worse as if the sh!ts going to hit the fan then it's going to hit us first. It always seems to do in all fairness. So this in turn causes a problem for the chairman's way of doing things but whatever he does, he'll never calm or please the masses as in truth it's just impossible as we as a fan base will probably never be happy or contented? Edited June 4, 2019 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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