Holmowl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 20/05/2019 at 10:08, gurujuan said: Didn’t Forestieri get 20 goals in his first season for us, or near enough? For me that’s the difference, with Rhodes, you might just get the goals, with Forestieri, you get so much more No. 15. Two of which were pens. Then 13. Then 5. Then 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 20/05/2019 at 23:21, Pulsar said: You could well be right but I heard exactly the same said from one of my Blunts mates a couple of years back regarding Billy Sharp. He's not stopped singing his name lately. Billy Blunt didn't cost SUFC their ground 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 May i suggest that maybe the agent of Jordan Rhodes has a vested interest to get his client another move and if there are reports out there that Norwich want to keep him, then maybe other clubs would think it a good idea to see if they can get him too. Basically i do not buy it, i think Rhodes will be with us in pre-season and then loaned to League 1 before end of the transfer window, either that or he is sat on our bench or not in the squad most of the season. It really is 1 giant mistake Wednesday have made wasting all our money on Rhodes, Van Aken, Abdi and Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsar Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said: Billy Blunt didn't cost SUFC their ground Tha what!? What a strange tangent you choose to take, JR hasn't cost us ours either, it's a culmination of mis-management. Your teabags are too strong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Well they can pay a fair price for him then. A minutes played v goal scored comparison will confirm he's still a top striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, DuttyTeabags said: Billy Blunt didn't cost SUFC their ground They don't own one to lose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, fred mciver said: Well they can pay a fair price for him then. A minutes played v goal scored comparison will confirm he's still a top striker. 18/19 - 6 in 1010 mins = goal every 168 mins Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Beats everyone at S6 this season except Joao, who scored every 160 mins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: 18/19 - 6 in 1010 mins = goal every 168 mins Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Beats everyone at S6 this season except Joao, who scored every 160 mins. That's just in the league. If you add in the cup games it's a goal every 133 mins for Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Holmowl said: 18/19 - 6 in 1010 mins = goal every 168 mins Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Beats everyone at S6 this season except Joao, who scored every 160 mins. Well if Bruce can’t find a place in the side for Joao, given those stats, he’s hardly likely to find a place for Rhodes, who offers nothing but goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I saw a poll on their forum a couple of weeks ago that was pretty much exactly 50/50 on whether they should keep him. In Internet World that's pretty high praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Holmowl said: 18/19 - 6 in 1010 mins = goal every 168 mins Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Beats everyone at S6 this season except Joao, who scored every 160 mins. Aye and when Rhodes was given exactly the same service as the rest of our strikers he was poo, even the much ridiculed Nuhiu outshone him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Walt said: Aye and when Rhodes was given exactly the same service as the rest of our strikers he was poo, even the much ridiculed Nuhiu outshone him. So presumably Joao’s total is the equivalent of 20 goals a season then, if he’s managed better than Rhodes has this season, and with rubbish service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, gurujuan said: So presumably Joao’s total is the equivalent of 20 goals a season then, if he’s managed better than Rhodes has this season, and with rubbish service It's a pretty pointless comparison isn't it - comparing a striker in the League winning side to the strikers in a side that was a bit meh. We had the true comparison when Rhodes et al played in the same Wednesday sides, where they all received the same service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 hours ago, gurujuan said: Well if Bruce can’t find a place in the side for Joao, given those stats, he’s hardly likely to find a place for Rhodes, who offers nothing Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 What really Fvvcks me off in this Rhodes debate is that there are always people that assert that the team needs to change to meet Rhodes’ needs rather than Rhodes adapting to meet the team’s needs. Rhodes ought to pull his thumb out of his arse. He also should stop being selfish and stop just playing for himself. When Forestieri plays selfishly, he’s labelled by some as petulant and disloyal but when Rhodes plays selfishly, he’s never held to account and all and sundry are blamed instead. Someone needs to be frank with Rhodes because he’s taken the p155 whenever he’s played for us IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 21 hours ago, shandypants said: What really Fvvcks me off in this Rhodes debate is that there are always people that assert that the team needs to change to meet Rhodes’ needs rather than Rhodes adapting to meet the team’s needs. Rhodes ought to pull his thumb out of his arse. He also should stop being selfish and stop just playing for himself. When Forestieri plays selfishly, he’s labelled by some as petulant and disloyal but when Rhodes plays selfishly, he’s never held to account and all and sundry are blamed instead. Someone needs to be frank with Rhodes because he’s taken the p155 whenever he’s played for us IMHO. I think the issue is that Rhodes, for all his goalscoring exploits over the years, is a fairly limited all-round footballer who doesn't really have it in his locker to adapt his game to any great degree. He's a penalty-box poacher - that's it. He has a very specific skillset, and one which can be very effective if used in the right way. You can ask him to be a link-up player, but he'll never be great at it. You can ask him to be a target man, but he'll be wasting his time on something which detracts from his natural attributes. He's a bit of an anachronism, but if you want to get the best out of Rhodes, he simply has to be selfish, in the style of many a goal-poacher of yesteryear. Now I'm not suggesting that we should adapt our way of playing to accommodate Rhodes, and I doubt Bruce is going to do so, but we certainly should have given more careful consideration to how we were going to use him before we paid a king's ransom to sign him. At this point, we can insist that Rhodes tries to change his natural game if we like, but we're only going to end up with an average footballer whose only natural talent - and one which made him the the division's most potent goal-poacher for several seasons, of course - is going to be dulled as he wastes his time trying to contribute in areas where he's not really capable. To channel my inner Carlos for a moment: you don't buy a Ferrari and use it to plough a field. Although ironically, it was Carlos who did just that in this particular instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 On 22/05/2019 at 17:05, Walt said: Aye and when Rhodes was given exactly the same service as the rest of our strikers he was poo, even the much ridiculed Nuhiu outshone him. Have to agree with that. Rhodes lost me at that dreadful Bolton away game a couple of years ago. He had two pinpoint crosses to attack for certain goals and he bottled both. Didn't want to put his head where it might hurt. Showed a complete lack of desire and commitment. Left me fuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 On 22/05/2019 at 11:39, Pulsar said: Tha what!? What a strange tangent you choose to take, JR hasn't cost us ours either, it's a culmination of mis-management. Your teabags are too strong. Correct. Only person responsible for thr ground fiasco (if true, still waiting for the books), is DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, billyblack said: Correct. Only person responsible for thr ground fiasco (if true, still waiting for the books), is DC. Totally needless hyperbole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Sham67 said: Totally needless hyperbole. Like everything he posts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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