cognacbarnowl Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ChinaOwl said: Despite the tongue in cheek nature of that post, it was never the intention of Chansiri to buy the ground, as far as I can see. The club already "owes" him a substantial amount of money related to director loans. All he has to do is use some of the said money (which he was never going to get back anyway unless he sells up at a substantial profit or spends a few seasons in the PL) to "buy" the freehold a.k.a. debt to equity and create a false profit on the next accounts. False profits never get owt reight tho, FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, ChinaOwl said: Two separate issues at play, money owned by Thai Union Group and money owned by the Chansiri family. Thai Union are publicly owned and would have to justify any involvement in football to the general shareholders. That justification would have to include a demonstrable and clear return on investment. What the Chansiri family (either DC individually or collectively) do with their own private wealth or privately owned companies in their possession is entirely a matter for them. It is a clear distinction. None of the Chansiri family have the authority to use T.U.G. shareholder funds outside the core disciplines of the company, namely food manufacture and processing. Very informative your posts and some great points. And Derby's sale and leaseback has turned a big loss into a decent profit so agree Chansiri could do same with us via some financial gymnastics. However, I still feel a voting share offer to fans would be best way to raise dosh and take club forward. Still can't help feeling there are other beneficial owners - why would you keep Paxo around after his Doyen mob have helped sink us? Edited May 29, 2019 by fred mciver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, fred mciver said: Very informative your posts and some great points. And Derby's sale and leaseback has turned a big loss into a decent profit so agree Chansiri could do same with us via some financial gymnastics. However, I still feel a voting share offer to fans would be best way to raise dosh and take club forward. Still can't help feeling there are other beneficial owners - why would you keep Paxo around after his Doyen mob have helped sink us? We struggled to get the £100k required last time. What chance do you think their is of raising over £30m this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtawnyowl Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 23/05/2019 at 15:40, i used to be sc_owl said: Not trawling through 70 pages. Have we sold the ground or not? On 23/05/2019 at 18:48, oldtawnyowl said: Well I've trawler through 70 pages, albeit bit by bit over the best part of a week. So if you're not prepared to trawl through 'em, then I'm not going to tell you. 16 hours ago, i used to be sc_owl said: Not trawling through 80 pages. Have we sold the ground or not? Still not telling yer !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 16 hours ago, i used to be sc_owl said: Not trawling through 80 pages. Have we sold the ground or not? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Hookowl said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, billyblack said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Is that, NOOO! we haven't, NOOO! we have, or NOOO! we may, or may not have, let's have another 81 pages of trying to sound informed in different and ever more creative ways, because we simply have no idea of the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 6 hours ago, fred mciver said: Very informative your posts and some great points. And Derby's sale and leaseback has turned a big loss into a decent profit so agree Chansiri could do same with us via some financial gymnastics. However, I still feel a voting share offer to fans would be best way to raise dosh and take club forward. Still can't help feeling there are other beneficial owners - why would you keep Paxo around after his Doyen mob have helped sink us? It would do nothing to alleviate FFP issues though. Why Club 1867 was tried. It was basically accounting alchemy to turn a long term loan into an item of revenue like pie sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Ante's Bubbly said: Is that, NOOO! we haven't, NOOO! we have, or NOOO! we may, or may not have, let's have another 81 pages of trying to sound informed in different and ever more creative ways, because we simply have no idea of the truth? No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 If we have, it will be in the accounts. Next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Mr. Tom said: No. Thanks for clearing that up Mr. Tom. Are you any relation to Major Tom, or Mr Tom Mr Tom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ante's Bubbly said: Thanks for clearing that up Mr. Tom. Are you any relation to Major Tom, or Mr Tom Mr Tom? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Any more news on this? I'm guessing maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: Any more news on this? I'm guessing maybe. Nope...... apart from the big f.ook off "SOLD" Banner across the top O the West stand... well actually it says "SOLDESTO" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: Any more news on this? I'm guessing maybe. D Taxis have bought the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: D Taxis have bought the ground Yep, no eating or drinking allowed inside. Anyone that smokes or is sick during the match shall pay a £100 valet charge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, S36 OWL said: D Taxis have bought the ground Is that for real? Must be a big company, yet the phone is never answered? I've been on West Street for 4 months waiting for them. Edited May 31, 2019 by Dronfield Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Dronfield Blue said: Is that for real? Must be a big company, yet the phone is never answered? I've been on West Street for 4 months waiting for them. Just round the corner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) He's transferring cash to me and Im buying ground but we currently negotiating the vig. Edited May 31, 2019 by flo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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