billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, Minton said: But you were saying that the squads should be smaller? How many players would you suggest they have in a squad then? Make it 20 or whatever, doesnt matter. Point is many players wouldnt be happy waiting for to be rotated, so would move to find first team football. The talent pool at the top clubs would be diluted and the talent spread further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, dorian gray said: they'd be lucky to escape the group games. anyone worth their salt would play abroad where you're not expected to work your kn****rs off twice a week, with no subs. maybe we could all have a 30 odd year old car, and keep fit by shoving the b***ard or walking home. Oh boo hoo. Heart bleeds. Hard life or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, billyblack said: Oh boo hoo. Heart bleeds. Hard life or what your heart wouldn't bleed for them, as they'd be playing abroad, and putting the english sides out of the european competitions at the same time as all the other british clubs go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, billyblack said: Make it 20 or whatever, doesnt matter. Point is many players wouldnt be happy waiting for to be rotated, so would move to find first team football. The talent pool at the top clubs would be diluted and the talent spread further. Spread all over Europe I would imagine. Where decent football would be played. Just face it, 1 sub and 20 man squads is a terrible, terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Minton said: Spread all over Europe I would imagine. Where decent football would be played. Just face it, 1 sub and 20 man squads is a terrible, terrible idea. Depends what you are trying to do? 1 sub would make much more interesting in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, dorian gray said: your heart wouldn't bleed for them, as they'd be playing abroad, and putting the english sides out of the european competitions at the same time as all the other british clubs go out. Im not talking about premiership alone. Im talking all football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: Depends what you are trying to do? 1 sub would make much more interesting in my view In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, billyblack said: Im not talking about premiership alone. Im talking all football. So you can't change tactics? one sub? its all over at half time then mate... i realise you mean its the same for everyone, but it would be a bit stale wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Minton said: In what way? Well it removes the option of having a bench full of international options rich clubs can buy two a penny for a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: Well it removes the option of having a bench full of international options rich clubs can buy two a penny for a start So how does this make the football more interesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, billyblack said: Well it removes the option of having a bench full of international options rich clubs can buy two a penny for a start Yea..But it also leaves with an option of bring Fletcher off and put.....Fox? on Or if Lees got injured bring....Hooper on? Edited May 25, 2019 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, Minton said: So how does this make the football more interesting? Makes it proper 11 v 11 for a start. Also stops clubs fielding weekend teams in the cup relying on subs to bale them out when its all going wrong. Makes them field their strongest team all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: Yea..But it also leaves with an option of bring Fletcher off and put.....Fox? on Or if Lees got injured bring....Hooper on? And, so what. Deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, billyblack said: Makes it proper 11 v 11 for a start. Also stops clubs fielding weekend teams in the cup relying on subs to bale them out when its all going wrong. Makes them field their strongest team all the time. It doesn't Billy..Cos who's the arbiter of what is "the strongest side"..Bearing in mind most top clubs prioritise 3rd place above an F.a cup win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, billyblack said: And, so what. Deal with it Why? Cos thats how you want it? I prefer a choice... A limited squad...yea I agree with that... Edited May 25, 2019 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: Makes it proper 11 v 11 for a start. Also stops clubs fielding weekend teams in the cup relying on subs to bale them out when its all going wrong. Makes them field their strongest team all the time. By 'proper 11 v 11' do you mean 'like it was in 1960'? It's a tripe notion. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Minton said: By 'proper 11 v 11' do you mean 'like it was in 1960'? It's a tripe notion. Stop it. Yes and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Minton said: By 'proper 11 v 11' do you mean 'like it was in 1960'? It's a tripe notion. Stop it. The whole basis of my argument is to reduce the power of the large clubs and to try and even the odds on the pitch. Thats it. Couldnt care less about financial impact or players crying about not lasting 90 mins twice a week. Edited May 25, 2019 by billyblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, billyblack said: The whole basis of my argument is to reduce the power of the large clubs and to try and even the odds on the pitch. Thats it. Couldnt care less about financial impact or players crying about not lasting 90 mins twice a week. The big clubs would still have power, would still attract the bigger players and would still dominate. All you would achieve is making football in the UK utter dross to watch. Times have changed. To echo your own sentiment, if you don't like it, tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Minton said: The big clubs would still have power, would still attract the bigger players and would still dominate. All you would achieve is making football in the UK utter dross to watch. Times have changed. To echo your own sentiment, if you don't like it, tough. Missed the point entirely. I dont really give a f#ck to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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