FreshOwl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie Birdsworth Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 No ta. Fresh succulent, well oiled legs please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: He played consistently under a number of top managers at Chelsea, winning everything he possibly could a long the way. I trust their judgement of a player a lot more than Belfast Owl 2 from Owlstalk, sorry. So you can't answer it. Not getting the approval of Sally Cinnamon is heartbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Ah the lazy argument that the amount of trophies makes a better player. I genuinely dont know what football ability he ever showed. Care to enlighten me? Agree to an extent when comparing some squad players for very successful teams. However you can't seriously suggest Mikel wasnt at a level way beyond anyone we've had since our glory years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, deano said: Agree to an extent when comparing some squad players for very successful teams. However you can't seriously suggest Mikel wasnt at a level way beyond anyone we've had since our glory years. I was focusing on his time at Chelsea when I always found him poor. Could never pick a pass, weak in the tackle and always slowed it down. If Hutchinson stayed fit he possibly could have challenged Mikel. But Mikel is obvisouly better than Pelupessey, O'Connor etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Quist said: Big overpaid lump. If i want pace and energy not what i want. Very difficult to see how you satisfy my requirements. uncanny .... we're you in our wardrobe this morning Quist ? you've quoted our lass word for word !!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, casbahowl said: And? And what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I was focusing on his time at Chelsea when I always found him poor. Could never pick a pass, weak in the tackle and always slowed it down. If Hutchinson stayed fit he possibly could have challenged Mikel. But Mikel is obvisouly better than Pelupessey, O'Connor etc I mean for anyone to have circa 250 prem games under their belt with 10 or so major honours against their name I’m struggling to see how that gets him in the company of JOC / Joey or Hutch. Im not sure how good he is now? Although finished season as captain of boro. But back in the day this guy was a regular in a title winning team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I was focusing on his time at Chelsea when I always found him poor. Could never pick a pass, weak in the tackle and always slowed it down. If Hutchinson stayed fit he possibly could have challenged Mikel. But Mikel is obvisouly better than Pelupessey, O'Connor etc Remember reading an interview with Frank Lampard after they won the Champions League and he called Mikel the heartbeat of their side. Thought he always looked solid. Kept the ball, did the simple stuff, intercepted play, great positional sense. I would dig deeper into the stats if I could be bothered, pretty sure he had the highest pass completion rate for a couple of seasons in the Premier League. If he was poor at Chelsea, very surprised he kept Michael Essien out the side the year they won the Champions League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I was focusing on his time at Chelsea when I always found him poor. Could never pick a pass, weak in the tackle and always slowed it down. If Hutchinson stayed fit he possibly could have challenged Mikel. But Mikel is obvisouly better than Pelupessey, O'Connor etc https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8130025/John-Obi-Mikel-reborn-as-Chelseas-undisputed-pass-master.html "could never pick a pass" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I would have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8130025/John-Obi-Mikel-reborn-as-Chelseas-undisputed-pass-master.html "could never pick a pass" He could never pick any sort of insightful pass over a few yards. Essien was a completely different sort of midfielder whos legs had gone by then. As for Lampard.. you will hear good midfield players praise their limited team mates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: He could never pick any sort of insightful pass over a few yards. Essien was a completely different sort of midfielder whos legs had gone by then. As for Lampard.. you will hear good midfield players praise their limited team mates. Insightful pass? What does that mean? He kept the ball, rarely gave it away, highest pass completion rate in consecutive seasons and won trophy after trophy. How can you argue he was crap? If he was crap he doesn't play in that great Chelsea side. By your logic, Busquets is also crap because he doesn't score goals and only ever passes sideways. Essien's legs had gone at 29? Yep Essien was that knackered Jose Mourinho signed him for Real Madrid the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Insightful pass? What does that mean? He kept the ball, rarely gave it away, highest pass completion rate in consecutive seasons and won trophy after trophy. How can you argue he was crap? If he was crap he doesn't play in that great Chelsea side. By your logic, Busquets is also crap because he doesn't score goals and only ever passes sideways. Essien's legs had gone at 29? Yep Essien was that knackered Jose Mourinho signed him for Real Madrid the following season. Merely my opinion he was a weak link in a great side. By insightful I mean one that can start an attack rather than a sidewards one. And as for Busquets he can tackle, is tenacious and has movement. I never saw those qualities in Mikel And I was sure Essien was older than that when he left Chelsea. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, Lizzie Birdsworth said: No ta. Fresh succulent, well oiled legs please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 We’ve lost a number of past it +30 year olds recently. This shouldn’t exclude us from signing still obviously class +30 players in the future. If he’s still got it and plays in a position we need filling and the deals right for us financially then why on earth anyone would turn their noses up at signing him? Just because we need younger players it shouldn’t prevent us from looking at other players in addition to those young fit world beaters everyone’s crying out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I was focusing on his time at Chelsea when I always found him poor. Could never pick a pass, weak in the tackle and always slowed it down. If Hutchinson stayed fit he possibly could have challenged Mikel. But Mikel is obvisouly better than Pelupessey, O'Connor etc I wish I was an Owlstalk Gestapo like you and had the ability to delete posts I find offensive or don't agree with, because you've offended me with this drivel. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, flo said: I would have him From behind, or mish with legs over your shoulders? Would you lube up or gurn it in dry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Merely my opinion he was a weak link in a great side. By insightful I mean one that can start an attack rather than a sidewards one. And as for Busquets he can tackle, is tenacious and has movement. I never saw those qualities in Mikel And I was sure Essien was older than that when he left Chelsea. My bad I think you’ll find a weak link in a great side would be a great player in a Championship side. The gulf is immense. This is assuming his desire and legs are still there. But he is only 31 not 35 and his performances for Boro appeared to be at a high level. A PL side will sign him. He’d be great for the Pigs. Dont think a weak link gets to play 250 matches under different managers though.... Edited May 12, 2019 by HirstWhoScoredIt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Mikel is exactly the type of player we want to avoid this summer; ex-Premier League journeyman winding down his career and still living off of his reputation from years ago. This would be a shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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