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Have Hooper and Lee done enough ?

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37 minutes ago, marcx666 said:

Sad to say, but they haven't had the time to "do enough". As bad as I feel about it, we should probably let them go,

 

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Hooper in 3 full seasons at Wednesday has never managed to stay fit for an entire season, now 31 I don’t see that changing. No disputing what an absolute incredible player he is when fit, but at the rumoured £30k plus he’s on we can’t risk having a player here anymore whose never proven he can be fit and firing all season long. 

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Take the sentiment out of it, and sadly, you really have to conclude that neither gives you any confidence.

I feel more sorry for Lee, because I feel in some way he either decided to risk his well being for the club..or..his well being was actually risked by the club.

Hooper..you can see his class, even as he comes back you can see the odd pass, the odd movement that shows he knows his stuff..but can he do it ALL season?. and his wage?................I dunno...

 

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1. Lee is reportedly on very modest wages, so there’s less of an investment to risk

2. When both are fully fit, Lee has a bigger influence on how we play, so is arguably more important to us. 

3. We have a surplus of forwards but a shortage of midfielders. 

 

So for me it’s keep Lee, let Hooper go. 

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Hooper is out for 16 months with serious injury and then from nowhere he's magically match fit. 

Oh. Yes and his contract is up at the end of the season. 

Wr have seen this before under this owner. Dobbin, last season suddenly started to score in the last few games. He could rim faster than ever. Some idiot at the club gave him a two year contract and what happens this season. He never tries an inch 

Has. Hooper been dodging the column? 

Given what happens at Hillsborough when there's nothing left to play for, it's not unreasonable to assume that hooper only came back just to get a new contact. 

What was. Wrong with him in those 16 months? 

As for Lee. Give him a year on reduced wages. Nobody else will pay him anywhere near the crazy money we pay him 

As for hooper. Dump him. He's a liability and kf his injury record is to be believed. He's a crock 

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1 minute ago, Mrmason69 said:

Hooper is out for 16 months with serious injury and then from nowhere he's magically match fit. 

Oh. Yes and his contract is up at the end of the season. 

Wr have seen this before under this owner. Dobbin, last season suddenly started to score in the last few games. He could rim faster than ever. Some idiot at the club gave him a two year contract and what happens this season. He never tries an inch 

Has. Hooper been dodging the column? 

Given what happens at Hillsborough when there's nothing left to play for, it's not unreasonable to assume that hooper only came back just to get a new contact. 

What was. Wrong with him in those 16 months? 

As for Lee. Give him a year on reduced wages. Nobody else will pay him anywhere near the crazy money we pay him 

As for hooper. Dump him. He's a liability and kf his injury record is to be believed. He's a crock 

Fair play to him...no use to us tho...................

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17 hours ago, Mrmason69 said:

 Dobbin, last season suddenly started to score in the last few games. He could rim faster than ever. 

 

 

Muffin the mule is NOT a criminal offence, FFS. :unsure:

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18 hours ago, Mrmason69 said:

Hooper is out for 16 months with serious injury and then from nowhere he's magically match fit. 

Oh. Yes and his contract is up at the end of the season. 

 

Given what happens at Hillsborough when there's nothing left to play for, it's not unreasonable to assume that hooper only came back just to get a new contact. 

What was. Wrong with him in those 16 months? 

 

He was pretending to be injured?! Really?

Do tell?

 

18 hours ago, Mrmason69 said:

As for Lee. Give him a year on reduced wages. Nobody else will pay him anywhere near the crazy money we pay him 

 

£12k pwk is crazy money?

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2 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

 

He was pretending to be injured?! Really?

Do tell?

 

 

£12k pwk is crazy money?

 

It is Mrmason you're quoting mi'lord. You have to expect idiocy from that quarter lol 

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Lee for me is our best player but just worried he will break down again. Hooper is a great link up player but have noticed he's already reverted back to throwing his arms up in the air when he doesn't get the ball. I think it's time to call it a day on both of them. 

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My heart says keep them, but my head can't make up its mind so I'll just trust Bruce has a better idea of what it'll cost to keep them versus their fitness record and support whatever he decides 

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21 hours ago, Mrmason69 said:

Hooper is out for 16 months with serious injury and then from nowhere he's magically match fit. 

Oh. Yes and his contract is up at the end of the season. 

Wr have seen this before under this owner. Dobbin, last season suddenly started to score in the last few games. He could rim faster than ever. Some idiot at the club gave him a two year contract and what happens this season. He never tries an inch 

Has. Hooper been dodging the column? 

Given what happens at Hillsborough when there's nothing left to play for, it's not unreasonable to assume that hooper only came back just to get a new contact. 

What was. Wrong with him in those 16 months? 

As for Lee. Give him a year on reduced wages. Nobody else will pay him anywhere near the crazy money we pay him 

As for hooper. Dump him. He's a liability and kf his injury record is to be believed. He's a crock 

 

Had a chat to Hooper a few months ago, he absolutely hated being injured and missed football. 

I guess he was faking the picture of him on the operation table as well?

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I'm fairly convinced that Hooper will be leaving.  I think he'll be one of those sacrifices that we have to make for FFP or whatever its called now.  His injury record definitely softens that blow though.

 

I can see Lee being kept on for a year to prove himself and I hope he does.

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I don't think he will keep either after listening to Bruce's words about saying this group have come close twice and have all got a little bit older, and that we need younger legs etc.

 

Really looking forward to hopefully seeing younger, hungrier, fitter and stronger players with hopefully some PACE. Something which has been sadly lacking for years now. It's time for a change now as much as i love those 2 when fit and firing....

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Change is never easy but change we will and after all the sentiments we will have new heroes to love/abuse - wawaw

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Hoopers biggest problem is he hasn’t looked very good since he come back . After that long out , cut him some slack for that , it can’t be easy . It does however answer the question of whether he should stay or not . He isn’t required and should be moved on 

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On 02/05/2019 at 14:40, Mrmason69 said:

Hooper is out for 16 months with serious injury and then from nowhere he's magically match fit. 

 

It wasn't magic, just a lot of patience, medical expertise, rehabilitation and graft.

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Both Hooper and Winall have looked a little short since returning from injury. I'd be looking to move both on and adding something a little different up top. 

 

Lee is a tricky one. Is he worth a six-month contract to prove his fitness and would he even take that?

 

It's incredibly difficult to call as we don't know who Bruce has lined up (or who he'd like to bring in). That's what ultimately decides the debate.

We'd still have Joao, Nuhiu, Rhodes, Fletcher & Fernando as striking options. I imagine Bruce will still want to freshen this and move some on for new blood. 

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14 minutes ago, swfcGibbo said:

Both Hooper and Winall have looked a little short since returning from injury. I'd be looking to move both on and adding something a little different up top. 

 

Lee is a tricky one. Is he worth a six-month contract to prove his fitness and would he even take that?

 

It's incredibly difficult to call as we don't know who Bruce has lined up (or who he'd like to bring in). That's what ultimately decides the debate.

We'd still have Joao, Nuhiu, Rhodes, Fletcher & Fernando as striking options. I imagine Bruce will still want to freshen this and move some on for new blood. 

As good as he is. Lee will only get offered a contract by a league one/two side after so long out. Maybe a promoted side may take a gamble. I think Bruce will ask him to train through the summer with the team with a promise of a contract if he stays fit/ looks sharp.

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