OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Out all that time .... ...and then ghosts in and nearly nabs the winner. The knack for timing hasn't been lost. You noticed me on the pitch then ? ...... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 As far as I can see, if all those who are out of contract leave, without considering upgrades, the squad will be short of 3 players, a centre back, and 2 midfielders. That would give us a squad of 22, probably enough in terms of numbers, but distinctly short of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: well I can 100% tell you you are way off, try half of that 25 then knock a bit more off you would be closer When he signed his last contract he was one of the most lauded players in the division... Was his agent Dianne Abbott? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, dkenyonqfc2 said: well I can 100% tell you you are way off, try half of that 25 then knock a bit more off you would be closer Just wanna draw all the repetitive posters attention to the above post. This poster knows KL and doesn't post bullshlt. Now let's put the "he's on big bucks" nonsense to bed and hope he gets signed up again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, daleblue said: Just so you are aware, pay as you play deals dont exist. There are appearance bonus. It does actually. You can sign on a non-contract basis, but as someone said...why would a player of his calibre accept that. Such a shame he got injured, he would have been pushing 12-15goals a season I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, McRightSide said: It does actually. You can sign on a non-contract basis, but as someone said...why would a player of his calibre accept that. Such a shame he got injured, he would have been pushing 12-15goals a season I reckon Nope, it dont. It's a normal contract of 6 months and on wards, with additions of appearance money being the major factor. Edited April 28, 2019 by daleblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Beholder said: Just wanna draw all the repetitive posters attention to the above post. This poster knows KL and doesn't post bullshlt. Now let's put the "he's on big bucks" nonsense to bed and hope he gets signed up again. GAME AND FIRST SET TO MR BEHOLDER ... NEW BALLS PLEASE ..... just getting ready for the summer exciting isn't it ? Edited April 28, 2019 by OWLERTON GHOST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Can’t believe he shook gangrene off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, daleblue said: Nope, it dont. It's a normal contract of 6 months and on wards, with additions of appearance money being the major factor. As I said, you can sign on a non-contract basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, McRightSide said: As I said, you can sign on a non-contract basis. I have never heard of any player signing such a contract, (or not as the case may be), would have thought against EFL rules, but if not, like you say why would a player ever sign such a contract. Maybe it's a thing in lower leagues but not in the Championship. Edited April 28, 2019 by daleblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, daleblue said: I have never heard of any player signing such a contract, (or not as the case may be), would have thought against EFL rules, but if not, like you say why would a player ever sign such a contract. Maybe it's a thing in lower leagues but not in the Championship. In the Championship. Took me about 8 seconds to find an example https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2016/august/emmanuel-ledesma-signs-on-a-non-contract-basis/ Edited April 28, 2019 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, daleblue said: I have never heard of any player signing such a contract, (or not as the case may be), would have thought against EFL rules, but if not, like you say why would a player ever sign such a contract. Maybe it's a thing in lower leagues but not in the Championship. What an excellent point you raise Dale .. Yeah thinking logically that might be taken with a dim view by the powers that be ?.. We could get a situation where guns for hire flit from one club to another,especially at this stage of the season... Say Villa are struggling in the midfield area - loads of injuries.... Phone rings "Hi Steve, Dean Smith here any chance you can get Almen to cancel his contract with you we desperately need him for the playoffs" ..... Edited April 28, 2019 by OWLERTON GHOST 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 If he’s got reduced wage demands and trains well over the summer I’d offer him one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: What an excellent point you raise Dale .. Yeah thinking logically that might be taken with a dim view by the powers that be ?.. We could get a situation where guns for hire flit from one club to another,especially at this stage of the season... Say Villa are struggling in the midfield area - loads of injuries.... Phone rings "Hi Steve, Dean Smith here any chance you can get Almen to cancel his contract with you we desperately need him for the playoffs" ..... Non-contract signings are allowed, but obviously very few players agree to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, McRightSide said: In the Championship. Took me about 8 seconds to find an example https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2016/august/emmanuel-ledesma-signs-on-a-non-contract-basis/ What is meant by a pay as you play deal. Under a pay as you play deal the player will be contracted to the club for a certain amount of time under a standard premier league contract. The only difference to the make-up of that players contract than other players in the team is that player will be paid when he makes an appearance for the club. often the player will be on a very low base salary and has the option of increasing that by working hard and making appearances on the pitch. I know this is for Premier league players but would have thought same through out the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Out of all the players out of contract in the summer - including Hooper - i’d keep Lee for one reason alone - he’s the missing link from our team. We line up best in a 433 with Forestieri on left, Reach right & a Fletcher type up top (no room for Hooper I’m afraid). Of the 3 in midfield we have Hutch the destroyer, Bannan the creator but we’ve been missing Lee the runner. He’s exactly the player we need, the one we’ve been missing and is worth the risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Yellowbelly said: Out of all the players out of contract in the summer - including Hooper - i’d keep Lee for one reason alone - he’s the missing link from our team. We line up best in a 433 with Forestieri on left, Reach right & a Fletcher type up top (no room for Hooper I’m afraid). Of the 3 in midfield we have Hutch the destroyer, Bannan the creator but we’ve been missing Lee the runner. He’s exactly the player we need, the one we’ve been missing and is worth the risk. This would be the main reason I’d give it serious thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Non-contract signings are allowed, but obviously very few players agree to them. I'll bet they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rentaghost Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Hutchinson has been here for a number of years with his injury record, and I’d say lee is a much better player. And Hutchinson is very good, so why wouldn’t he be worth a contract. Not sure if the rumours are true with Carlos playing him when injured to try and save his own skin, but whatever happened that season has clearly been the main factor in him being injured over the last year. Hes been unlucky getting other injuries in the road to recovery, but if he’s is through that and can stay fit, a kieren lee who can contribute 25 games (a bit like Hutchinson) is worth a contract and the risk. He was outstanding in the play off final season, if he stays fit, he is one of the best in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Suspect he will have fallen off most clubs radars after so long out. If they listened to the rumours on here most clubs might have thought he'd retired! As Bruce said on Friday there are weeks ahead to sort everything out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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