MARTY BOY Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Thinking ahead, if next season, we had a midfield three of Lee, Hutchinson and Bannan, we would need to have pace, invention, and goals further ahead. The set up is similar to the one Bruce used at Villa, with two wide players, one a winger, and one a striker, flanking a mobile centre forward That's not a good enough option for me playing 2 crocks is just asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, the monk said: You implied the club had done him a favour by standing by him and now he should repay the "debt" Just want him to carry on playing as he always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, latemodelchild said: Imagine if Abdi had made his return yesterday. Would people be saying sign him up? A player who doesn't play isn't a good investment, regardless of who it is. We need players who play. Players with a track record of being fit. Stop talking about pay as you play deals, they won't be offered and very few players will take them. Lee is one of the best players the club has had in the past 20 years. Abdi isn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Lee , top lad and our best midfielder in 20 years . Should he stay ? No. Along with hooper , it’s time to move the injury prone players on. No room for semtimemt in football . Hope he gets over his problems and can play for another couple of years though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, james o connor said: Lee , top lad and our best midfielder in 20 years . Should he stay ? No. Along with hooper , it’s time to move the injury prone players on. No room for semtimemt in football . Hope he gets over his problems and can play for another couple of years though . I agree with this and others who say keep them , not sure what that says about me! Suppose at the end of the day it needs specialist advise as to whether the actual injury is no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 depends if we are under embargo. If we are its an easy choice... sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 It is a tough call. However this time last year the Ipswich fans were saying similar things about David Mcgoldrick I think Hooper and Lee are worth another year, whether they’d accept that is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I knew my Abdi comment was ill advised. What I'm saying is an injury prone and affected player is an injury prone and affected player regardless of how good he has been for us. It's about 90 minutes once or twice a week for a full season and any player that can't do that is a drain on our resources. We pay top dollar for tickets, we need to see a return and that starts with players who we can actually watch play. If KL is fully over his injury then keep him on. If there's a good chance of a repeat of this season then let go. Abdi can go regardless, without a doubt the worst signing this club has ever made. I won't be inviting questions or discussion on this statement so don't @ me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon barksdale Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 A midfield with bannan hutch and lee wasn’t good enough for promotion 3 years ago. Why would it be now? Time to move on I’m afraid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, TheEnchanter said: You have to weigh it up. He's played 42 games in 3 seasons. Thats all you can go on. Is it worth using his wages to bring someone in who may not be as talanted but is available for selection and fits how Bruce wants to play or keeping a 30 game at best Kieran Lee? I'm starting to think we need to be ruthless and get a fit as hell squad thats smaller and more together than any of the squads we've had in the Chansiri era. I'm not sure we could achieve that with the constant changing that having so many injured players have forced us into. With resources tight id be tempted to let him go. Almost feel the same with Hooper. We need no sentiments here but I trust Bruce to make the hard decisions this summer. I can't wait personally, stagnation has set in for ages with this bunch. Definitely let Hooper go. Not a heavy scorer just turns it on for a short period to establish his credentials, looking dynamic as he brings others into play but surely we can see it's only for short periods and we have another ageing striker in Fletcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stoop said: It is a tough call. However this time last year the Ipswich fans were saying similar things about David Mcgoldrick I think Hooper and Lee are worth another year, whether they’d accept that is another matter Agree Ipswich letting McGoldrick go looks madness, esp as he has always scored goals and wonder if it was straight cost cutting which looks the case there in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, victorturner said: Agree Ipswich letting McGoldrick go looks madness, esp as he has always scored goals and wonder if it was straight cost cutting which looks the case there in general He’d been consistently injured every year for the past 4 seasons, then goes to dem blades and has a blinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Think the main thing to say is I have full trust in Bruce to make the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Stoop said: It is a tough call. However this time last year the Ipswich fans were saying similar things about David Mcgoldrick I think Hooper and Lee are worth another year, whether they’d accept that is another matter This is my opinion too, knowing our luck these players will suddenly become fit next season and have a blinder for somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Avon barksdale said: A midfield with bannan hutch and lee wasn’t good enough for promotion 3 years ago. Why would it be now? Time to move on I’m afraid I think Bruce would get it to function more effectively than CC did. ..problem is it’s older and more prone to disruption through injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Lee will be on somewhere in the region if 25k. That too us is a lot of money. Unless we offered him a 1 year deal on significantly less money (with appearance based clauses) then it's a no from me. Hooper likewise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Lee will be on somewhere in the region if 25k. That too us is a lot of money. Unless we offered him a 1 year deal on significantly less money (with appearance based clauses) then it's a no from me. Hooper likewise. Stop posting speculation as fact. You don't know what K Lee is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, shandypants said: A direct comparison here would be Hutchinson vs Pelupessy. Thirty games from Hutch and the remaining 16 from Pelupessy is a better option than 46 games from Pelupessy IMHO. We’d have to pay a significant amount of money to buy a player as good as Hutchinson to play 46 games a season, so we stick with Hutchinson and live with the fact that we won’t get a full season out of him because we have proof that he makes a difference. The same logic holds with Lee. We’d have to pay a significant amount of money to recruit and retain a player in the mould of Lee that could play 46 games a season. I’d rather have him for half a season than an “also ran” that was never injured because Lee has proven time and again that he makes a difference. I also think that Bruce will manage our midfield in a way that very few players will play an entire season of games which would mean less strain on our key midfielders. You assume KL will be able to play 23 games, when it could well be that if he breaks down again it will be for months or worse. The only time you can replace players with bad injury records is when their contracts are up. Sad to say, he should be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, victorturner said: Definitely let Hooper go. Not a heavy scorer just turns it on for a short period to establish his credentials, looking dynamic as he brings others into play but surely we can see it's only for short periods and we have another ageing striker in Fletcher. Turns it on for short period? Every time hes he’s come into the team he makes us look x10 better Stupid comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Libertine said: I really really like the guy but there is absolutely no way we should offer him a new contract. He’s way too injury prone. Not just the last 18 months but I think he broke down every season since we signed him. Same goes for Gary Hoooper, we are not in a position to offer contracts based solely on sentiment Exactly how I feel about the situation. Lee when fit is one of the best players in the league imo. He just isn’t fit anywhere near enough. Be very sad to see him go but I think it needs to be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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