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It’ll take a brave man to not give Kieran Lee a contract extension...

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He’s worth the gamble imo. But I won’t hold it against the club / Bruce if he was to go. End of the day we’ve got an injury problem at S6, we need players who can play regularly - hopefully fans will think about this before beating the club/Bruce with a stick when it comes to some unpopular decisions.

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5 minutes ago, shandypants said:

...he is held in such esteem with Wednesdayites. 

 

If Kieran Lee isn’t given a contract then I’m sure that Steve Bruce has made the decision for the right reasons but, fvvck me, it’d be a bloody big stick to get beaten with if Lee went elsewhere and was successful. 

 

I’d be tempted to bite the bullet and extend Lee’s contract given that he is arguably the most popular and most effective SWFC player since the likes of Di Canio. 

 

Ok, it might not be a sensible option but firstly, Football is very much a political “PR” business so keeping fans “on side” is crucial and secondly, we know for a fact that a fit Kieran Lee will bring goals to the side and also drag his teammates 20 yards further up the pitch to play in the areas that Bruce wants us to play. 

 

Of course it’s a gamble to extend Lee’s contract but for many reasons, it’s one worth taking IMHO. 

Players like this with injury like they are need a clause in contract summat like every game play or fit to play you get x wage a week even if it’s off the bench but if you suffer injuries to same extent your wage is x amount whilst you recover. Not being funny surely he’ll still earn enough money lol 

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Any decision, I would imagine, will be set against the club’s financial woes Some clubs would undoubtably be in a better position to take a chance, but can we. 

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Lee himself seems to have a great deal of integrity and honesty about him.

 

It may be fanciful but I'd be surprised if he was the sort of person who would step out onto the pitch in the knowledge that he might let himself, his team mates, his club and the fans down.

 

As Enchanter says, I believe Bruce will make the right decision for the club... but I also think Lee will do the right thing in any 'negotiations'

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Whatever we do with him I trust Bruce. If he is fully fit and playing every game then he's great. If not he's a waste of money. Whichever is most likely to happen is the one we must choose. We aren't gonna be able to risk big money on players who don't play. 

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3 minutes ago, Bleeder said:

Lee himself seems to have a great deal of integrity and honesty about him.

 

It may be fanciful but I'd be surprised if he was the sort of person who would step out onto the pitch in the knowledge that he might let himself, his team mates, his club and the fans down.

 

As Enchanter says, I believe Bruce will make the right decision for the club... but I also think Lee will do the right thing in any 'negotiations'

Yes, he does seem like that sort of bloke. It will be a tough decision for Bruce, and he needs to be mindful of our current situation. I do trust Bruce to make the right decision, but perhaps he himself needs to learn the lessons We haven’t exactly had good mileage out of his two loan signings have we

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5 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

Any decision, I would imagine, will be set against the club’s financial woes Some clubs would undoubtably be in a better position to take a chance, but can we. 

Its not just financial risk here though. Lee is a very popular, ultra-effective and honest player. He has bought his popularity by sticking with us when he was courted by the likes of Everton. If he does leave, it has to be absolutely PR managed - can we afford to be seen just discarding him due to financial implications? I agree with Beholder, Lee won’t be on a king’s ransom. 

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I wouldnt give him one. we all sit and complain about injuries but then encourage the signings of sick notes.

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Imagine if Abdi had made his return yesterday. Would people be saying sign him up? A player who doesn't play isn't a good investment, regardless of who it is. 

 

We need players who play. Players with a track record of being fit. Stop talking about pay as you play deals, they won't be offered and very few players will take them. 

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2 minutes ago, shandypants said:

Its not just financial risk here though. Lee is a very popular, ultra-effective and honest player. He has bought his popularity by sticking with us when he was courted by the likes of Everton. If he does leave, it has to be absolutely PR managed - can we afford to be seen just discarding him due to financial implications? I agree with Beholder, Lee won’t be on a king’s ransom. 

No I see that, and he could be integral to the balance of our midfield As good as Hutchinson and Bannan are in their respective roles, Lee is the player who glues it all together. If we want to go with a three man midfield next year, and I believe we should, then a fit Kieran Lee means we already have the personnel in place, and that would be a huge bonus in terms of continuity

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Pay as you play contract to prove fitness, nothing else.

 

Like the player but it's not enough to sign him up. 

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29 minutes ago, Libertine said:

I really really like the guy but there is absolutely no way we should offer him a new contract. He’s way too injury prone. Not just the last 18 months but I think he broke down every season since we signed him. Same goes for Gary Hoooper, we are not in a position to offer contracts based solely on sentiment 

I always thought KL had a good injury record until this serious injury has kept him out for the last 18mths or so. Was he injury prone before SWFC?

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There'll be plenty of other sticks so don't worry about it.

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13 minutes ago, latemodelchild said:

Imagine if Abdi had made his return yesterday. Would people be saying sign him up? A player who doesn't play isn't a good investment, regardless of who it is. 

 

We need players who play. Players with a track record of being fit. Stop talking about pay as you play deals, they won't be offered and very few players will take them. 

 

Well i think comparing Abdi with Lee is not exactly fair.

 

To do so when Abdi had good games v Port vale (?) in a friendly and away v Forest is a bit of an insult to Lee.

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1 minute ago, OhForAnotherShez said:

 

Well i think comparing Abdi with Lee is not exactly fair.

 

To do so when Abdi had good games v Port vale (?) in a friendly and away v Forest is a bit of an insult to Lee.

I wholeheartedly agree 

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